Re: BioRDF [Telcon]: slides for the UMLS presentation

(to be clear, when i say hotel, i mean the rental of a meeting room in a 
hotel, not the costs of hotel rooms!)

John Wilbanks wrote:
> 
> OK.  I will be traveling most of the rest of the month for 
> non-Neurocommons related work.  But I'll return to this end of June and 
> start gathering some forces.  I'll also get in touch with Karen Skinner.
> 
> I'd been thinking about early December as a time frame and Boston as a 
> location.   I'll need to shift the planning up a notch, since if we're 
> going to have a bigger group I can't host it at MIT as planned.
> 
> The meeting will be free as in beer and free as in speech but I won't be 
> able to cover travel costs - just the hotel and the lunches.  If we're 
> going to get a group like this together, I'd also like to have some 
> hacking.  The Neurocommons RDF draft release will be out before the 
> meeting and I'd like to have at least a piece of the time be focused 
> around getting the users and the coders wired together on some problems, 
> use cases, and more.
> 
> jtw
> 
> William Bug wrote:
> 
>>
>> Ditto, John!
>>
>> I'd also suggest including NCBO folks on this (specifically Daniel  
>> Rubin and Barry Smith), as I see an obvious convergence of needs and  
>> focus here - despite the fact some see the top-down ontological  
>> approach and the bottom-up SW approach as being difficult to reconcile.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bill
>>
>> On Jun 8, 2006, at 10:24 AM, kei cheung wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John et al.,
>>>
>>> I think it's a great idea. Do you have some more information (e.g.,  
>>> meeting location and draft meeting agenda) about the Neurocommons  
>>> meeting you mentioned which Bill and I (and possibly others) can  
>>> share with the neurosceintists we're working (have worked) with to  
>>> see what they think?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> -Kei
>>>
>>> John Wilbanks wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> I've been following the discussion here with interest the last two  
>>>> weeks - with the Neurocommons project, Science Commons is taking  on 
>>>> both issues of intellectual property (on ontologies and  databases) 
>>>> and the semantic web in neuroscience.  We're text  mining the open 
>>>> content and indexing with public ontologies with a  focus on autism 
>>>> and epilepsy; draft RDF release is planned in the  november time frame.
>>>>
>>>> For what it's worth...we were planning on holding a Neurocommons  
>>>> meeting in the late fall / early winter and I'd be happy to expand  
>>>> that meeting to more of a global "meeting of the minds" between  
>>>> SWeb and Neuro, if that's of use.  Let me know...
>>>>
>>>> jtw
>>>>
>>>> kc28 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your passionate response. When I said "outreach", I  did 
>>>>> imply to establish a mutually beneficial relationship between  the 
>>>>> semantic web and neuroscience communities. I agree with you  that 
>>>>> such a relationship would help bring scientific/techological  
>>>>> advances to both communities. I also agree that it's an excellent  
>>>>> idea to have a face-to-face meeting with the neuroscientists you  
>>>>> listed. However, it could be a challenge to get all of them agree  
>>>>> to come and show up at the same meeting. I don't mean we  shouldn't 
>>>>> try. I think we should try even if we can only get some  but not 
>>>>> all of them. Also, I think we should also invite folks  from NCBO 
>>>>> and MGED to join if possible. In addition to the face- to-face 
>>>>> meeting, I think we can still try to invite these  neuroscientists 
>>>>> (as well as some of the NCBO/MGED folks) to  participate in some of 
>>>>> future telconf's to establish an ongoing  interaction. For your 
>>>>> suggestions on the BioRDF wiki pages (I  think they are very good 
>>>>> suggestions), I suggest that we set it  as one of the agenda items 
>>>>> to discuss in our BioRDF telconf call.  Other folks may also have 
>>>>> other suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> -Kei
>>>>>
>>>>> William Bug wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do run on, sometimes, don't I, Kei?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I emphatically agree with the general tenor of your suggestion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would word it a bit differently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wouldn't call this outreach so much as going to the "customer"  
>>>>>> and  asking them to help us - the technology experts - to define  
>>>>>> their  user requirements.  I would word it this way to the  
>>>>>> technologists, at  least.  The Neuroscientists should be pitched  
>>>>>> using "civilian"  colloquialisms, but the point is I believe the  
>>>>>> onus is on those  developing and applying the technology to stay  
>>>>>> in sync with the needs  of the neuroscientists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I realize many of us on this list are in fact trained biomedical  
>>>>>> and/ or computer science researchers.  I myself was originally  
>>>>>> trained as  a molecular biophysicist studying neuromodulation of  
>>>>>> presynaptic,  Voltage-dependent, Ca++-channels using single- 
>>>>>> channel and whole-cell  electrophysiological techniques.  That  
>>>>>> places us at the extremely  valuable nexus where we possess  
>>>>>> specific insight into the information  needs of broader  community 
>>>>>> of neuroscientists we hope will benefit  from the  technological 
>>>>>> resources we develop, while also possessing  the  technological 
>>>>>> insight required to determine what is practical.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My sense is it's important to develop credibility on both sides  
>>>>>> of  this equation - the technology developers need to clearly  
>>>>>> demonstrate  they're sensitive the needs of "bleeding edge"  
>>>>>> researchers.  They are  developing tools to revolutionize a  
>>>>>> scientist's ability to perform  their research tasks effectively  
>>>>>> and efficiently - transform them  from 19th century cottage  
>>>>>> scientists where all knowledge mining must  be done laboriously  
>>>>>> and with very limited scope by their lonely brain  into 21st  
>>>>>> century informaticists where large scale, data/knowledge  mining  
>>>>>> against the evolving "World Brain" (H.G. Wells term - http://  
>>>>>> sherlock.berkeley.edu/wells/world_brain.html) is a routine  practice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The scientists also need to demonstrate they recognize the  value  
>>>>>> provided by the technologists.  This will again derive  from 
>>>>>> clear  demonstrations of the value the technological  solutions 
>>>>>> can provide  to the researcher.  This latter issue is  often a 
>>>>>> hard one to get  across, but its lack of such  recognition/trust 
>>>>>> that can lead the  technologists to go at it  on their own out of 
>>>>>> frustration (Kei, Don,  and others who  attended the Human Brain 
>>>>>> Project meeting in April can  attest to  the fact that I am just 
>>>>>> as subject to this frustration as  any  other bioinformatics 
>>>>>> developer - :-)  ).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Along these lines, I'd suggest:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Presentations by neuroscientists who have done seminal work  
>>>>>> in  neuroinformatics:
>>>>>>     I think Kei's suggestion is an excellent.  However, I'd  
>>>>>> suggest a  F2F meeting, where these folks are invited as  
>>>>>> speakers.  It will be  hard to get the full effect of what they  
>>>>>> have to say on a phone or  video conference.  They are likely to  
>>>>>> take a talk at a meeting more  seriously and a greater level of  
>>>>>> commitment is likely to derive from it.
>>>>>>     I would suggest there be a session of neuroinformatics  
>>>>>> presentations  by neuroscientists, and also a session of  semantic 
>>>>>> web technology  presentations by participants of this  group.  The 
>>>>>> focus should be on  neuroinformatics projects using  semantic web 
>>>>>> technology with one  intro talk on semantic web  technology 
>>>>>> applied to biomedical  informatics to provide a  context for those 
>>>>>> neuroscientists who've not  yet got the take  home message.
>>>>>>     My suggestion for neuroscientists would be - in no  particular 
>>>>>> order  of importance:
>>>>>>         1) Gordon Shepherd (SenseLab) - integration of various  
>>>>>> modalities  of neuro-data with a focus on the olfactory system
>>>>>>         2) Doug Bowden (NeuroNames) - unified, mammalian  
>>>>>> neuroanatomical  lexicon
>>>>>>         3) Maryann Martone (CCDB, SMART Atlas, & BIRN) /Mark  
>>>>>> Ellisman  (BIRN)/ Jeff Grethe (BIRN infrastructure) - broad- 
>>>>>> field, neuroimaging- centric neuroinformatics infrastructure
>>>>>>         4) Rolf Kütter (CoCoMac) - literature informatics  
>>>>>> ("bibliomics")  system with a focus on neuro-connectivity
>>>>>>         5) Rob Williams (GeneNetwork/WebQTL/Mouse Brain Library)  
>>>>>> - genetic  variability and brain phenotypes from molecules  
>>>>>> through anatomy and  behavior
>>>>>>         6) Peter Hunter (CellML and parametric spatial modeling  
>>>>>> of the brain)
>>>>>>         6) Dan Gardner (BrainML) - XML schema for neuroscience data
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are other folks, but I believe this core of people cut  
>>>>>> across a  variety of neuroscientific sub-domains and levels of  
>>>>>> technical  complexity.  I'd also recommend someone from the  field 
>>>>>> of 3D digital  brain atlasing (atlas data set/computer  vision 
>>>>>> algorithm/atlas tool  development), but as I'm in this  field 
>>>>>> myself, I don't feel it's  appropriate for me to suggest  which of 
>>>>>> the several researchers would  be the most  appropriate.  I would 
>>>>>> only say it's important to  recognize the  distinction between 
>>>>>> spatially-based, neuroscience data  sets  (GENSAT, Allen Brain 
>>>>>> Atlas, Desmond Smith's "voxelized"   microarray data sets) and the 
>>>>>> use of brain atlases to provide a   canonical coordinate space and 
>>>>>> algorithmic tool set via which  one can  perform large-scale 
>>>>>> integration & atlas mapping of  spatially-based,  neuroscience 
>>>>>> data sets.  This task -  integration of spatially-mapped  
>>>>>> neuroscience data sets - is  obviously one for which semantic web  
>>>>>> technologies will be a  critical catalytic factor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) The BioRDF Wiki page:
>>>>>>     I'd suggest this focus on semantic web applications in the   
>>>>>> neuroscience.  There is already a link to a list of projects  
>>>>>> (e.g.,  SWAN, Semantic Synapse, NeuroCommons).  Rather than  place 
>>>>>> substantive  info on these 3 projects 3 clicks away, I'd  suggest 
>>>>>> you list them  right there on main BioRDF Wiki along  with a 1 - 2 
>>>>>> sentence summary  of each project.  This will  guarantee the 
>>>>>> widest possible recognition/ visibility for these  efforts.
>>>>>>     I'd also suggest that in listing of "other" neuroscience  
>>>>>> resources  on the web, rather than creating an ad hoc collection  
>>>>>> of a few  projects (which can effect general credibility - e.g.,  
>>>>>> "Where are all  those neuroscience resources I think are  
>>>>>> important - why just BrainML  & GENSAT?" - I'd point to the  
>>>>>> several consortia and/or  registries/"yellow pages" already  
>>>>>> compiled - e.g., the Society for  Neuroscience's Neuroscience  
>>>>>> Database Gateway (http://big.sfn.org/NDG/ site/), David  Kennedy's 
>>>>>> Internet Analysis Tools Registry (mainly  neuroscience  tools, 
>>>>>> though this scope is expanding - http://  
>>>>>> www.cma.mgh.harvard.edu/iatr/display.php?spec=all), fMRI Tools   
>>>>>> (http://www.fmritools.org/), The Neuroinformatics Portal Pilot   
>>>>>> (http://www.neuroinf.de/), etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     3) Licensing:
>>>>>> To say one final thing about licensing, I completely agree with  
>>>>>> Don  that it is a hideous, unworkable mess.  Go back to the  
>>>>>> single  statement in Article 8 of the U.S. Constitution, and you  
>>>>>> clearly get  the sense of what was originally intended by  
>>>>>> establishing copyright  and patent law as a legal entities  
>>>>>> (http://www.archives.gov/national- archives-experience/charters/ 
>>>>>> constitution_transcript.html):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The Congress shall have Power...To promote the Progress of  
>>>>>> Science  and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to  
>>>>>> Authors and  Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective  
>>>>>> Writings and  Discoveries;"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was recognized even 200 years ago the creative commons is of  
>>>>>> great  value to society.  For this value to be realized, these  
>>>>>> resources  must be a part of the commons and available to all -  
>>>>>> including latter  day inventors, artists, and scientists seeking  
>>>>>> to build on what came  before.  This need, however, must be  
>>>>>> balanced again the desire of the  artist, scientists, inventor  to 
>>>>>> make a productive living from the  fruits of their labor  
>>>>>> (otherwise, the creation stops).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd guess most folks on this list would certainly agree with the  
>>>>>> need  to establish this right.  Where the founders went wrong  was 
>>>>>> in the  statement "The Congress shall have Power To...", as  this 
>>>>>> left the  door wide open for Congress to redefine what  copyright 
>>>>>> was all  about.  As most of you probably know, the  balance began 
>>>>>> to shift from  the "...Authors and Inventors (and  scientists)..." 
>>>>>> to publishers  (those solely in business to make  $$$ off the 
>>>>>> efforts of the creative  persons) starting in the  late 19th 
>>>>>> Century with the proliferation of  pirated sheet  music.  This 
>>>>>> trend worsened through the last century,  but  really took a 
>>>>>> significant, qualitative leap away from the   original intentions 
>>>>>> as outlined in Article 8 above with the  DMCA.   Given how 
>>>>>> significant a driver IP is for the engines of  the economy  (and 
>>>>>> greed), I'm still uncertain how we can over  turn this trend and  
>>>>>> get back to the original principles.  The  work sponsored by the  
>>>>>> CreativeCommons - and specifically The  ScienceCommons - will  
>>>>>> certainly help to get us there**. This is  the case despite the  
>>>>>> extremely clear detriment the current  trend has toward society as 
>>>>>> a  whole*** and to the communication  amongst scientists in 
>>>>>> particular.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Though still problematic, I actually endorse the use of  licensing 
>>>>>> by  the NeuroNames folks (as you might have been able  to gather 
>>>>>> already),  as I see their application going right back  to that 
>>>>>> original  statement in the U.S. Constitution.  It's one  thing to 
>>>>>> bulk download  sequence records and "cleanse" their  semantic 
>>>>>> content in order to  promote powerful knowledge mining  efforts.  
>>>>>> When it comes to highly  curated, knowledge resources,  the onus 
>>>>>> is on the user to be careful  both to clearly  understand the 
>>>>>> original intentions and limitations of  the  resource, as well as 
>>>>>> to work to protect the integrity of the   resource.  It does none 
>>>>>> of us any good to create a "better" or  more  "open" NeuroNames, 
>>>>>> if that just becomes another version  of  NeuroNames.  If we are 
>>>>>> not ALL using the same NeuroNames (or  at least  using compatible 
>>>>>> and consistent versions), then we  defeat the purpose  of using 
>>>>>> NeuroNames for large-scale data  integration and semantic  mining.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is needed is for there to be an established authority to   
>>>>>> arbitrate when issues of curation and usage of a knowledge  
>>>>>> resources  come into conflict.  Here again, I'd suggest going to  
>>>>>> NCBO for help.   Not that they have an infinite supply of  
>>>>>> resources and can solve all  the problems, but at least they  
>>>>>> understand this complex issue from  both sides - that of the  
>>>>>> curation authority and of the biomedical  informatics scientist  
>>>>>> trying to make productive use of the resource -  and have some  
>>>>>> resources and authority to grease the wheels of science  in this  
>>>>>> domain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again - just my $0.02.  I hope this helps to clarify what I've  
>>>>>> been  trying to communicate in this thread.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** I expect it's a bit superfluous to mention here, but I'd  
>>>>>> suggest  checking out the SC info resources, if you've not  
>>>>>> already at http:// sciencecommons.org/resources.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ***see the excellent article by Richard Nelson posted by John   
>>>>>> Wilbanks on the Science Commons weblog a few months back  [http:// 
>>>>>> sciencecommons.org/weblog/archive/2006/02/15/richard- 
>>>>>> nelson-on-the- scientific-commons] for an excellent treatment of  
>>>>>> how this directly  impedes the pursuit and accumulation of  
>>>>>> scientific knowledge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2006, at 7:42 PM, kc28 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You really can write faster than I can read :-).  Actually, we  
>>>>>>> have  discussed in a previous telconf about how to outreach to   
>>>>>>> the  neuroscience community. I think this represents a good  
>>>>>>> opportunity  to try to get people like Doug Bowden involved, as  
>>>>>>> we are  interested in converting Neuronames into RDF/OWL. I  
>>>>>>> wonder if it's  possible to invite neuroscientists like Doug  
>>>>>>> Bowden and Gordon  Shepherd (and possibly more) to talk about  
>>>>>>> their work in our future  BioRDF/Ontology telconf. This will  
>>>>>>> foster more interaction between  the semantic web community and  
>>>>>>> neuroscience community. I wonder how  this sounds to other  
>>>>>>> semantic web folks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Kei
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> William Bug wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Matthias,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would strongly recommend you contact Doug Bowden and  
>>>>>>>> colleagues  at  NeuroNames before you undertake this task - or  
>>>>>>>> at least take a  look  at the NeuroNames specifics I list in  my 
>>>>>>>> previous email.   I'd be glad  to answer any questions you  may 
>>>>>>>> have about statements  I made.  Doug  and his  collaborators are 
>>>>>>>> extremely collegial and  make a very  sincere  effort to work 
>>>>>>>> with those interested in  making  effective - or novel -  use of 
>>>>>>>> NN.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The other person you should contact is Daniel Rubin at NCBO,  
>>>>>>>> who,  for  all I know, is lurking on this thread.  Others in  
>>>>>>>> the thread  appeared  to be addressing Daniel.  This is a  topic 
>>>>>>>> actively  under  investigation both by NCBO and by the  BIRN.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I mentioned in my post to this thread, Doug & colleagues  
>>>>>>>> have  been  working for the last year with Jack Park of SRI to  
>>>>>>>> express  NN in XTM  format.  A lot of effort needs to go into  
>>>>>>>> vetting this  "remapping" to  make certain none of the  
>>>>>>>> assertions in the  hierarchy - explicit or  implicit - are  
>>>>>>>> invalidated - as well as  ensuring no new assertions  are  
>>>>>>>> unwittingly introduced.  You may  want to work from this  
>>>>>>>> version  of NN to create an RDF/OWL  version.  As I mentioned  
>>>>>>>> in the previous  post, there has been  some substantive effort  
>>>>>>>> to examine the  differences and  similarities between XTM &  RDF 
>>>>>>>> - and there may even  be  translators or XSL instances  that can 
>>>>>>>> get you most of the way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doug also distributes the entirety of NN on CD with all of  the  
>>>>>>>> latest  work they've done in the past year to incorporate  rat 
>>>>>>>> &  mouse  neuroanatomical terminologies - an added  dimension  
>>>>>>>> absolutely  critical to those of us interested in  collating  
>>>>>>>> microarray, in situ &  IHC expression studies in  mouse brain 
>>>>>>>> with  neuroimaging data sets and  3D digital brain  atlases.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is definitely a need for an open source, RDF/OWL version  
>>>>>>>> of   NeuroNames (and the neuroanatomical portion of RadLex for  
>>>>>>>> that  matter  - http://www.rsna.org/RadLex/ - if you are  
>>>>>>>> interested in  human,  radiological imaging of the brain).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I believe we must do our best to work with the curators/ 
>>>>>>>> developers  on  these various knowledge resource projects,  
>>>>>>>> given the  biological  complexity embedded in these resources.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As far as the licensing goes, Doug realizes this is a thorny   
>>>>>>>> issue.   The initial license was merely put in place to avoid   
>>>>>>>> others  downloading this highly curated knowledge resource,   
>>>>>>>> modifying it,  then repackaging it as "NeuroNames."  As I   
>>>>>>>> mentioned, this was not a  paranoid fear.  The license was  
>>>>>>>> imposed  in response to someone  actually having done this  with 
>>>>>>>> NN.   Knowledge resources like this -  even when they are  just  
>>>>>>>> terminologies - require careful curation, and   uncontrolled  
>>>>>>>> dissemination and modification can ultimately  degrade  the  
>>>>>>>> usefulness of the resource.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course, closed, proprietary licensing can also degrade  its   
>>>>>>>> usefulness, so there is a delicate balance that must be  struck.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is an issue I believe NCBO can help us all to resolve.   
>>>>>>>> They   won't have all the answers, but may be able to sponsor  a 
>>>>>>>> means to   derive an effective solution to this problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My recommendation is a statement be sent by the W3CSW HCLSIG  -  
>>>>>>>> maybe  the BioRDF & BIOONT groups collectively - informing  Doug 
>>>>>>>> of  the need  as they see it.  He will not be surprised  by the 
>>>>>>>> nature  of your  request, but will be very surprised  and 
>>>>>>>> pleased to see  this need  emerging from the semantic web  
>>>>>>>> community.  I don't  believe he reads  this list.  I know he  
>>>>>>>> will be happy to work with  participants on the  W3CSW HCLSIG  
>>>>>>>> to get us what we have all  identified as essential - an  open  
>>>>>>>> source, unified neuroanatomical  terminological (and in   
>>>>>>>> association with FMA - as Neuro-FMA -  ontological) resource  
>>>>>>>> all  formal annotation efforts can make  shared and productive  
>>>>>>>> use of.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just my $0.02 on the topic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2006, at 3:38 PM, Matthias Samwald wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Kei,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am under the impression that the neuronames ontology  
>>>>>>>>> available  on  their website (as an Excel file...) is  
>>>>>>>>> different from the  version  that is licensed as part of the  
>>>>>>>>> UMLS. I guess the  version that is  online is a newer version  
>>>>>>>>> of the one  incorporated in UMLS. However,  this might be  seen 
>>>>>>>>> as a  derivative work, so it might still be  restricted.  In 
>>>>>>>>> that case,  it would seem like people of the  neuronames  group 
>>>>>>>>> are violating  the licence restrictions themselves  (by  making 
>>>>>>>>> it available on  the internet). I will write them and  ask  
>>>>>>>>> about that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> kind regards,
>>>>>>>>> Matthias
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Hi Matthias,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Thanks for doing that, but do we still have the licensing  
>>>>>>>>>> issue as
>>>>>>>>>>  stated by Olivier?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  -Kei
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Matthias Samwald wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  I will convert the neuronames - ontology to SKOS (an OWL  
>>>>>>>>>>> ontology
>>>>>>>>>>>  used for the representation of taxonomies / theasauri). It  
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>  be added to the extension of the bio-zen ontologies framework
>>>>>>>>>>>  [1]. I will keep you updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>  Matthias Samwald
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  [1] http://neuroscientific.net/index.php?id=download
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:17:55 -0400, kc28 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  For more up-to-date information about neuronames and related
>>>>>>>>>>>>  tools, please visit: http://braininfo.rprc.washington.edu/.
>>>>>>>>>>>>  While building our own open neural anatomy is one option,
>>>>>>>>>>>>  getting the neuroscientist (e.g., braininfo people)  
>>>>>>>>>>>> involved if
>>>>>>>>>>>>  possible may be another option (outreach to the neuroscience
>>>>>>>>>>>>  community?).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bill Bug
>>>>>>>> Senior Analyst/Ontological Engineer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Laboratory for Bioimaging  & Anatomical Informatics
>>>>>>>> www.neuroterrain.org
>>>>>>>> Department of Neurobiology & Anatomy
>>>>>>>> Drexel University College of Medicine
>>>>>>>> 2900 Queen Lane
>>>>>>>> Philadelphia, PA    19129
>>>>>>>> 215 991 8430 (ph)
>>>>>>>> 610 457 0443 (mobile)
>>>>>>>> 215 843 9367 (fax)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Bill Bug
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