- From: Jack Park <jack.park@sri.com>
- Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:21:41 -0700
- To: public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org
Brief comment regarding the topic mapping work Bill mentions here. Doug Bowden recently participated in a workshop on "Ontology Federation" here at SRI. We had several speakers from both the topic mapping world, and bioinformatics: Douglas Bowden and Peter Karp, and Steve Newcomb, Patrick Durusau, and myself. Vinay Chaudhri opened the workshop and participated. Richard Fikes spoke from the perspective of the KR community. KR lies, of course, at the roots of the work products we all create. We are moving away from the XTM topic mapping specification, and into the TMRM [1] topic maps reference model, the product of which we now call "subject maps" to distinguish topic maps from a slightly different paradigm. Subject maps are no longer constrained by a preselected ontology (XTM) and can be implemented using key/value properties of the author's choice. This permits authors to create subject maps that can mimic any frame-like language chosen, including, I suppose, OWL. There exists a necessary and important tension between the use cases of traditional KR and those for which the topic mapping paradigm has been created and shown useful. When Bill mentions "more semantic web compliant", I would ask questions derived from two important use cases. The two use cases do not circumscribe the entire field of KR, but they serve as place holders to delimit a useful discussion between ontologists and subject mappers. I will argue that both ontologies and subject maps are valuable, and they can serve users together. The two use cases about which I speak are: 1- accurately answering questions according to some authority 2- understanding some universe of discourse, even where conflicting world views exist Use of authoritative ontologies is clearly the domain of question answering. Understanding some universe of discourse is also rightly the domain of ontologies, but here, subject maps offer the opportunity to "federate" disparate world views into a unified framework organized around subjects. Where ontological entities carry information resources that speak to the same subject, then those entities are merged into a single subject map entity -- a subject proxy -- regardless of conflicts between messages conveyed. There are benefits to be derived from such merging operations. Patrick Durusau and I spoke to this topic in a teleconference to the Ontolog community [2], and slides and an mp3 of the talk are available. There will be other papers released soon on these opportunities. It was in the spirit of this federation opportunity that Doug Bowden and I first spoke. To be "semantic web compliant", it is always possible for our subject map portal to carry plenty of RDF metadata. It remains to be answered whether the goal of such metadata is to accurately answer specific questions, or to just advertise the presence of world views. Bioinformatics, in all of its many manifestations, I strongly believe, will benefit from collaborations between ontologists and subject mappers. Jack [1] http://www.isotopicmaps.org/tmrm/ [2] http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_04_27 William Bug wrote: > > Hi All, > > Sorry - I'd thought I'd already subscribed to this list, but > apparently not - until now. > > The need for a mereotopologically-sound, neuroanatomical ontology is > quite pressing across the community of neuroscientists involved in > neuroinformatics projects most of which include a neuroimaging > component. Generally there is only one thing neuroscientists are > interested in when analyzing images at whatever resolution from the > macromolecular (EM) on up to the macroscopic - i.e., identifying > biologically relevant shapes. In order for these shapes to have any > meaning in a context where one attempts to pool data and perform > relevant data reduction operations, the shapes must exist within a > shared coordinate space of some sort. For instance, if two separate > labs are examining the change in the size of the Substantia Nigra > during the course of Parkinsonian neurodegeneration, in order for them > to compare their observations, they require several data > integration/semantic frameworks: > - a shared neuroanatomical terminology > - a shared coordinate space (to place the shapes from their images > in a comparable coordinate framework) > - a shared, well-founded anatomical ontology which encapsulates > mereotopological knowledge about shapes in - at least - 3D space. > Other knowledge resources can be helpful in supplementing this array > of tools, but, generally, these are the absolute minimum. > > [NOTE: the Wikipedia has a moderately clear definition of > mereotopology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mereotopology). > Basically, it combines a formal, ontological theory of shapes and > boundaries (mereology) with the mathematics of topology with the goal > of providing a computational formalism to support applying logical > operations to objects in space. As has been pointed out by others, a > great deal of the work in this field of applied biomedical > mereotopology derives from related work in the GIS field. Use of > mereotopology by geographers has been going on for quite some time and > is much more advanced. Work from GIS can be adapted for use in the > biomedical domain, but it must be done with great care, as many of the > assumptions behind the way researchers represent space and manner of > information being represented can differ significantly across these > disciplines.] > > The same is true as you scale this problem up to field-wide projects > such as BIRN or The NeuroCommons. > > As several have mentioned in this thread, there are already existing > resources that can begin to fill this need. > > 1) NeuroNames > Kei, Olivier, Peter Mork, and others have already given sufficient > references on NeuroNames in this thread, so that others can dig in > deeper to the specifics if they like. > > Having worked with Doug Bowden, Mark Dubach, and their colleagues over > the last year or so in an advisory capacity on the specific issue of > use of NeuroNames for semantically-based, neuroanatomical data set > integration, I can add a few important qualifying points: > a) Doug et al. have been working on the extremely difficult task > of unifying neuroanatomical terminologies across mammalian species for > 20 years now. Embedded in Neuronames & Braininfo, there is a wealth > of hard won empirical knowledge related to how one achieves this end. > I think it would be ill-advised to try to duplicate their effort, as > the myriad scientific problems related to this effort would surely > present themselves again and only need to be worked out once one. > b) Doug et al. are extremely collegial and quite receptive to > feedback and collaboration - within the bounds of their limited > resources. > c) NeuroNames is a terminological resource - not a well-founded, > spatial ontology of brain anatomy capable of supporting > mereotopological reasoning. As with most research-based > terminologies, there are many semantically-based relations embedded in > the NeuroNames graphs, but as the primary goal of NN is to > disambiguate and integrate across the neuroanatomical lexicon, the > embedded semantic information can often lead to a logical dead end. > For instance, many neuroanatomical terms critical to specifying > location in the rodent brain have been placed in the NN category > "ancillary terms," as they don't fit into the core hierarchy in an > unambiguous way. This can make use of NN for annotating mouse brain > gene & protein expression patterns (e.g., GENSAT, the Allen Brain > Atlas, various BIRN projects) extremely problematic. > d) The NN primary structures > (http://braininfo.rprc.washington.edu/indexabout.html) provide the > closest thing to an ontology in NN. As Peter Mork pointed out, there > has been an effort in the past to unite this core NN hierarchy with > the FMA, which does provide a mereotopologically sound framework for > anatomy. Barry Smith (formal ontologist who has worked for over a > decade on problems in biomedical ontology - most especially, though > hardly exclusively, in the area of mereotopological reasoning) and his > colleagues have worked closely with the Cornelius Rosse and his > colleagues at the FMA project to create in association with the work > started in the FMA a foundational ontology for biomedicine (the > Ontology of Biological Reality) that is becoming increasingly > important to all of the ontologies being monitored by NCBO and > incorporated into the OBO site and the emerging OBO Foundary > (http://obofoundry.org/). > e) Doug and his colleagues have worked closely with Jack Park (a > consulting scientist to SRI's AI Center - http://www.ai.sri.com/) to > represent NN as a TopicMap (XTM). As many on this list may know, > there has been a moderate amount of effort to integrate and/or > reconcile XTM with RDF here at the W3C (search on "TopicMaps" at the > main RDF page - http://www.w3.org/RDF/). I'm not certain how this > effort will ultimately make NN more "semantic web" compliant, but the > bottom line is a great deal of effort has already been expended to > express NN in a semantically well-grounded formalism. > f) Though - as Don points out - neuroanatomical representations > are likely to significantly evolve over the coming decades, as the > number of large scale gene & protein expression characterization > studies focussed on the brain continue to accumulate. Having said > that, the "conventional" view of neuroanatomy will likely remain > relevant for a long while to come, not only because it has been used > to characterize findings in the literature for the last 125+ years, > but also because it did derive from a wealth of empirical observation > which is likely to remain valid in many domains of neuroanatomical > study. I would also modify Don's well informed comment regarding the > derivation of "conventional" views of neuroanatomy. To a large extent > they are related to functional studies of the brain - as well as > lesion based studies of functional deficits dating back to the 19th > century (think "Broca's Area"), but they are also very much based on a > study of the morphology of the brain - both the external surface > morphology (sulci, gyri, and lobes), as well as histological > examination of internal structures. Many of these studies of > structure in space are likely to stay with us for some time to come > (and are well-founded in reality), though as Tim Clark & Don have > pointed out in this thread, nomenclature is still a very significant > problem even in this very "old" field. > g) licensing of NN - Doug et al. formerly had a completely open > policy to distributing NN. The only a reason a license was instituted > was at some point about 5 years back another group sucked down the > entirety of NN, reworked a lot of what was there - probably with very > practical goals directed toward making NN more "correct" and effective > in their problem domain - then "republished" their product as > "NeuroNames". This lead to a great deal of confusion. The fact they > chose to do this on sly also meant the work they did was not > necessarily compatible with the work done by Doug et al.. In order to > avoid this happening again, it was decided a license would be > established to discourage this sort of behavior. As anyone who has > developed a terminology and/or ontology, it is absolutely essential > there remain a single curating authority, if the value of the resource > is to remain in tact. The "vetting" performed by the central > authority - as is extensively done by the curators of the Gene > Ontology, for instance - is absolutely essential to the guaranteeing > the integrity of the knowledge resource. This is not a "closed" or > proprietary process, just a highly controlled one. Unfortunately, > Doug Bowden's resources are MUCH MUCH smaller than those available to > the curators/developers of GO, so the NN curation effort necessarily > moves at a slower pace. > > 2) Working with the Neuroscience community > As Kei, Don, and others have stated, it would be unwise to proceed in > creating an "open source" neuroanatomical ontology without interacting > with the researchers who've already put a lot of effort into this > problem over the past decade or so. With this in mind, I have several > suggestions: > a) The 5 ways of knowing neuroanatomy: > This is a pitch I've been making which I think helps to sum up > the current ways various sub-fields have attempted to > identify/label/collate brain morphology > i) Terminlogies - e.g., NN, BrainLex > ii) Ontologies - e.g., Neuro-FMA (the project Peter Mork > referred to) > iii) Literature Informatics (CocoMac, BrainMap, NeuroScholar, > BAMS, ArrowSmith, etc.). > These are very mature projects. Some include their own > mereotopological reasoning systems (e.g., CocoMac and BrainMap) in > order to be able to pool and compare the relatedness of structures and > connectivity across different studies in the literature. The goal in > this category is to perform large-scale semantic mining of the > literature to confirm/refute current knowledge and uncover new > correlations - very much along the lines of what The NeuroCommons > Project expects to achieve via use of semantic web technologies. Some > researchers in this category are actually participating in The > NeuroCommons Project (i.e., Gully Burns, who developed NeuroScholar). > iv) voxel/pixel analysis: > This approach applies computer vision algorithms to > automatically - or semi-automatically - identify 2D & 3D shapes in > digital anatomical images. This field is also extremely mature, > though there are many significant caveats to exactly how much of this > work can be effectively automated. > v) parameterized models: > Often these are derived from - or used to drive - the > voxel/pixel based analysis described in 'iv' - though the spatial > modeling is definitely a distinct approach from the pure voxel/pixel > approach. > > None of studies you'd fit into these categories exclusively focus on > their technique/tool alone without some aspect of the other "ways of > knowing neuroanatomy" playing a role in what they do. However, it is > clear much fundamental work in this area primarily focuses on one > technique over the others. > > Having said that, when the neuroscience community makes use of this > work to examine a specific biological problem, they will often draw > significant tools and resources from more than one of these domains. > > b) NCBO/NCOR sponsored meeting focused on mereotopology in > neuroanatomy: > Barry Smith is working to bring together researchers working > in the 5 domains described above. There is a very pressing need in > large-scale, field-wide neuroinformatics projects such as what is > being done in the BIRN project to have these 5 domains converge and > work more cooperatively. Right now, a lot of manual effort has to be > put out to bring them together. This is something BIRN has been > pursuing. In the last 6 months, we have received a great deal of > support and guidance on this effort from NCBO. Daniel Rubin interacts > directly with the BIRN Ontology Task Force, and the work Barry Smith > has been doing with FMA, OBO, FuGO, and PATO have very much begun to > create a much more well-founded and computable path toward performing > large-scale annotation of neuroimaging data. > This meeting is on the NCBO/NCOR slate for 2007, but in the > interim I hope to see more effort invested in the coming year across > the 5 communities listed above toward the goal of integrating across > these "ways of knowing" now that the need has been recognized. > > 3) Microarrays: > Just as Don, Kei, Alan R., and others have pointed out, > high-throughput assays - microarrays, BAC-based IHC, in situ studies > using the Gene Paint technology employed by the Allen Institute of > Brain Science to construct the Allen Brain Atlas of gene expression in > the brain - are going to transform our understanding of neuroanatomy > over the coming decades. This is just a given. There is a pressing > need to derive a means to integrate spatially-mapped studies of gene & > protein expression into a neuroimaging setting. The spatial resolution > may be very coarse - e.g., "whole brain" - but they still provide > sufficient spatial information to be usable in the context of a > neuroanatomical coordinate system. > We are working in the BIRN project to create a means for > researchers to integrate these distinct approaches to studying the > brain. As Alan R. pointed out, FuGO is working to put description of > microarray experiments on a solid, formal footing, and I would expect > one aspect of that will be to represent microarray data in RDF/OWL. > This is not a trivial problem, given as much of the available data is > merely MIAME-compliant - MIAME not even being a data format, but just > a collection of minimal data requirements. One need only look at the > great complexity of the data submission process at the NCBI GEO site > to get an appreciation for how difficult this problem can be. A great > deal of effort is being invested in the microarray field to come up > with a better means handle this issue, and the FuGO effort will be a > critical clearinghouse for this work. The important thing to remember > when it comes to field-wide data pooling and re-analysis, it may > sometimes be necessary to get right back to the microarray primary > image files so as to reapply different criterial when performing the > statistical tests and reductions on pooled data. Given this > requirement - one we also see in the neuroimaging domain - I believe > it is very important to proceed in a well-reasoned manner when seeking > to integrate across microarray datasets using semantic web > technologies. Alan R. and myself - possibly others too - on this list > are on the FuGO Coordinators Committee, so hopefully we can help to > keep those lines of communication open. > > Sorry to go on so, but this is a topic on which I've labored quite > intensively over the past year. There is a lot being done on this > issue, and I think all efforts will get much further more quickly - > and in a way that will carry more street cred with practicing > neuroscientists - if we all try to work together. > > Cheers, > Bill > > Bill Bug > Senior Analyst/Ontological Engineer > > Laboratory for Bioimaging & Anatomical Informatics > www.neuroterrain.org > Department of Neurobiology & Anatomy > Drexel University College of Medicine > 2900 Queen Lane > Philadelphia, PA 19129 > 215 991 8430 (ph) > 610 457 0443 (mobile) > 215 843 9367 (fax) > > > Please Note: I now have a new email - William.Bug@DrexelMed.edu
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