Re: [sdw] BP 10 http://www.bbc.co.uk/ontologies gone (#1328)

I have kicked off a rich thread of discussion. I agree with @oldskeptic's conclusions, but not with the way he's characterising my input or my working environment (apologies, friend!):

"public query[discovery] mechanisms like SPARQL/GraphQL will be installed "over my dead body" because of security concerns while we push EDI transactions over plaintext FTP because "it's always been that way"." - this is definitely not what's happening in the publicly owned company where I work. We are flat out implementing OGC APIs, including query capability, because our understanding of our customers is that they are far more likely to employ Javascript programmers who can handle Open APIs than they are to find SPARQL or GraphQL writers.

"when ESRI/QGIS/Spreadsheets are the only tools available, you are going to download the whole thing just to find what you are looking for": again, not the environment our "download the whole thing" customers work in - those are/were major government departments crunching a lot of their own data (national statistics, national environment & agriculture). They have their own "mainframe" data processing facility, which may well embed Knowledge Graph tech inside it - but that doesn't mean they want to pause & call out to the web everytime they want to find our contribution (e.g. the official name of a voting area, or the boundary between two such things).

@namedgraph : I wouldn't see SPARQL Club's analysis of job ads as strong evidence of a growing tech. Here's this from an advocate https://www.ontotext.com/blog/the-semantic-web-20-years-later/, seeing "knowledge graph" as an evolution of the semantic web of 20 years ago.

Perhaps "linked data" is analogous to Linux; for decades it was going to be the "next big thing", and people asked "what happened to it" - and then realised it was powering about half of the web, just invisibly behind the scenes. Not sure how that works when we're talking about (among other things) a publishing format / model....



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