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RE: Time ontology extension for non-Gregorian calendars

From: Peter Parslow <Peter.Parslow@os.uk>
Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 12:16:09 +0000
To: Élie Roux <elie.roux@telecom-bretagne.eu>, "public-sdwig@w3.org" <public-sdwig@w3.org>
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Dear Élie,
ISO 19108:2002 "Geographic information - Temporal schema" standardises a number of concepts for expressing time other than in the Gregorian calendar. I have no experience of using these parts, so I can't really say how complete or appropriate they are.

There is an attempt at expressing it as an ontology (in RDF/OWL) at https://def.isotc211.org/ontologies/iso19108/. The project that is part of has been criticised; as the RDF/OWL is generated automatically from UML models, it isn't ideal. But it should give you an idea of whether the concepts defined there are useful to you.

The UML is available at http://iso.sparxcloud.com/index.php; the document is sold by ISO and (in France) AFNOR; it may be available through your organisation or public library.

I hope that helps.

Peter Parslow
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From: Élie Roux <elie.roux@telecom-bretagne.eu>
Sent: 21 May 2020 12:52
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Subject: Time ontology extension for non-Gregorian calendars

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Dear all,

I have a project of encoding date description in non-Gregorian calendars, mostly Chinese, Tibetan, South-East Asian and Indian. I started a small example with a few properties on

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I would like to ask a few big picture questions about my idea:

- are there similar initiatives? (for any type of non-Gregorian calendar)

- would this working group host such an initiative?

- if not, what do you think the best course of action would be for me to have the most useful result?

- there are patterns that will be common to most non-Gregorian calendars (duplicate days and month, eras other than the Common Era, etc.), and it would seem strange to define properties in a scoped extension (such as the one I envision). Could these patterns be proposed as an extension to the Time Ontology? Or should there be a more general non-Gregorian Time Ontology that would cover these?

Thanks in advance,

Best Regards,
--
Elie Roux
Technical lead of Buddhist Digital Resource Center
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