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RE: Recap Toulouse face to face

From: Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton) <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 23:02:24 +0000
To: "ted@w3.org" <ted@w3.org>, Linda van den Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl>, "public-sdwig@w3.org" <public-sdwig@w3.org>, "Tandy, Jeremy" <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>
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Thanks Ted - 

The flow for a Note was unclear to me. I was under (perhaps mistaken) impression that even a Note needs to go through a WD/comment cycle. Perhaps I was mistaken! 

You say that a W3C WD is more weighty than a W3C Note? I had seen Note as something like a whitepaper or proposal. I guess since it sits at a /TR/ address then it looks pretty real that way. 

Linda, Jeremy - views? 

Simon 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Guild <ted@w3.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December, 2019 04:57
To: Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton) <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>; Linda van den Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl>; public-sdwig@w3.org; Tandy, Jeremy <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>
Subject: Re: Recap Toulouse face to face

Hi Simon,

As it was previously a [First Public] Working Draft I requested permission to publish it as a Working Draft. Some prefer WD to Notes as having more weight as a specification although that is a matter of perception. I spoke with Philippe Le Hegaret with his Director hat on and he is inclined, awaiting email confirmation.

I viewed the support for the updates presented at the face to face as approval but Linda or Jeremy may wish to formalize with a call for consensus. That can be done simply as an email to this list with a deadline, typically five business days as I recall, to voice objection.

On Sun, 2019-12-08 at 22:00 +0000, Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton) wrote:
> Draft of SSN-EXT is here: 
> https://w3c.github.io/sdw/proposals/ssn-extensions/

> I would like this to be issued ASAP as a new PWD, replacing 
> https://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-ssn-ext/ which was published a year ago 
> now.
> How do we initiate a vote to allow this? 
> 
> IMO it is pretty close to done now, so after responding to comments in 
> response to PWD, I would then like to look towards this being issued 
> by this IG as a W3C Note / OGC Discussion Paper.
> 
> Simon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
> Sent: Saturday, 7 December, 2019 00:03
> To: Linda van den Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl>; 
> public-sdwig@w3.org; Tandy, Jeremy <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>
> Subject: Re: Recap Toulouse face to face
> 
> Minutes are online, corrections welcome. In particular need link for 
> Rob's slides and and issue he mentioned on github and a project Esa 
> mentioned, look for @@ for context.
> 
> https://www.w3.org/2019/11/19-sdw-minutes

> 
> On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 10:09 +0000, Linda van den Brink wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >  
> > Here’s a short recap of the face to face meeting we had in Toulouse 
> > at the OGC TC.
> >  
> > SSN extension
> > Simon Cox presented the latest Editor’s draft of the SSN Extensions 
> > document [1]. The idea is to publish a new WD of this document 
> > (which is intended to be a W3C Note / OGC Discussion paper). He has 
> > asked the group for review [2] Ted Guild will help navigate this 
> > through the process once the group agrees to publish this as a new 
> > WD. The new ‘evergreen’ standards process of W3C may be applicable.
> >  
> > WebVMT
> > Rob Smith gave an update on the WebVMT work. It’s still in 
> > incubation phase, partly within the Web Platform Incubator Community 
> > Group.
> > Contact with browser developers has been initiated, revealing that 
> > there has been previous work on video geotagging but at the time no 
> > consensus was reached. There seems to be some interest in doing this 
> > now.
> >  
> > MapML
> > The community around MapML is slowly developing; Peter Rushforth did 
> > some community building at TPAC this year and talked to browser 
> > developers from Agalia, Beaucoup, Firefox, Chrome. There is also a 
> > draft use cases & requirements document [3]. On the OGC side MapML 
> > is being worked on in testbed 15. Peter and Ted will look into 
> > organizing a W3C workshop on maps in HTML.
> >  
> > Discussion on charter
> > The general feeling about the proposed charter is positive; those 
> > present agreed we should move this charter forward. There were some 
> > pointers to improve the text. The chairs will transfer the charter 
> > text to the right template and further improve the text. When 
> > rechartering we may want to think about promoting the group some, in 
> > order to remind the W3C and OGC membership what we’re doing.
> >  
> > Linked building data
> > Mathias Bonduel and others from the Linked building data community 
> > group joined to present their work. They are working on ontologies 
> > for linked building data, collecting use cases, requirements, 
> > developing best practices and ontologies, in the future planning to 
> > evolve to a W3C WG. They are contacting the SDWIG to see if OGC can 
> > help with their use cases related to geometry and topology. This 
> > turns out to be related to the OWL Space / GeoSPARQL 2.0 work, 
> > currently discussed in the OGC Geosemantics working group, which 
> > they were invited to join.
> > Another potentially interesting OGC standard is IndoorGML which 
> > describes topology of buildings.
> >  
> > SDW Finland
> > Esa Tiainen presented remotely [4] on low hanging fruit and how to 
> > move forward with spatial data on the web.
> >  
> > OGC technology trends
> > George Percivall presented the tech trends [5] OGC has their eye on 
> > and asks the group if there are more trends to record within the 
> > spatial web data trend group.
> >  
> > [1]: https://w3c.github.io/sdw/proposals/ssn-extensions/
> > [2]: 
> > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdwig/2019Nov/0029.html

> > [3]: 
> > https://maps4html.github.io/HTML-Map-Element-UseCases-Requirements/

> > [4]: 
> > 
https://github.com/w3c/sdw/blob/gh-pages/meetings/f2f-5-presentation-e

> > sa-tiainen.pdf
> > [5]: 
> > 
https://github.com/w3c/sdw/blob/gh-pages/meetings/f2f-5-OGC-tech-trend

> > s-for-SDWIG.pdf
> 
> --
> Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
> W3C Automotive Lead
> https://www.w3.org/auto

> 
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