Re: [Minutes] 2016-11-02 from Bill Roberts on 2016-11-03 (public-sdw-wg@w3.org from November 2016)

From: Bill Roberts <bill@swirrl.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:53:39 +0000
To: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>, Ed Parsons <eparsons@google.com>
Cc: SDW WG Public List <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CAMTVsunOJ3AUfbTtfWBhfZ=Rthr6pJEErMnwAGxeVB-Mm2NMyw@mail.gmail.com>
Phil - thanks for the minutes of last night's call. Skimming through them,
I see a question about possible F2F dates and an action to contact me -
thanks for taking my plans into account!

I could do all day 15th Dec in either London or Amersfoort, but not 16th
Dec, so I'd travel home on evening of 15th.  Still, I'd be happy to go for
one full day and we could prob get a lot done.

Cheers

Bill

On 3 November 2016 at 08:41, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org> wrote:

> The minutes of this week's plenary meeting are at
> https://www.w3.org/2016/11/02-sdw-minutes with a text snapshot below.
>
> Please note that Ed has an action item to see whether Thursday-Friday
> 15-16 December are better dates for a F2F than 13-14.
>
> General consensus that we all need to know ASAP (with a big +1 from me as
> it means mucking around other people, changing existing bookings etc.)
>
>
>
>           Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference
>
> 02 Nov 2016
>
>    [2]Agenda
>
>       [2] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20161102
>
>    See also: [3]IRC log
>
>       [3] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/02-sdw-irc
>
> Attendees
>
>    Present
>           eparsons, kerry, ClausStadler, jtandy, roba,
>           ChrisLittle, Linda, SimonCox, AndreaPerego
>
>    Regrets
>           Rachel, Lars, SimonCox, Jon, Bill, Frans, Phil,
>           MattPerry, Bryon, Bart
>
>    Chair
>           eparsons
>
>    Scribe
>           eparsons
>
> Contents
>
>      * [4]Topics
>      * [5]Summary of Action Items
>      * [6]Summary of Resolutions
>      __________________________________________________________
>
>    <scribe> New webex link
>    [7]https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=md6855d5b49f82a029c988c
>    968aa0bf3f
>
>       [7] https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=md6855d5b49f82a029c988c
> 968aa0bf3f
>
>    <scribe> Topic : Approve last week's minutes
>
>    [8]http://www.w3.org/2016/10/19-sdw-minutes.html
>
>       [8] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/19-sdw-minutes.html
>
>    <jtandy> +1
>
>    <Linda> +0 was not there
>
>    <roba> +1
>
>    <ChrisLittle> +++1
>
>    <ClausStadler> +0 (wasn't there+
>
>    <SimonCox> jtandy: is that the webex password?
>
>    PROPOSED: Approve last week's minutes
>
>    RESOLUTION: Approve last week's minutes
>
>    sdw simon
>
>    <scribe> Topic : Patent Call
>
>    [9]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call
>
>       [9] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call
>
>    <scribe> Topic : New Publications promotion
>
>    <ChrisLittle> I will comment on Rob's Editor last draft for
>    QB4ST
>
>    <jtandy> there are no comments on
>    [10]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-comments/
>
>      [10] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-comments/
>
>    jtandy: press release ?
>
>    <roba> Chris - note I updated it with a significant revision.
>
>    eparsons: phil said w3c press release unlikely
>
>    linda: talked to geonovum comms person - dutch magazine article
>    planned
>
>    <ChrisLittle> +1 for Linda
>
>    linda: Next months OGC meeting a good oportunity
>
>    <AndreaPerego> Post in W3C space:
>    [11]https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/5901
>
>      [11] https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/5901
>
>    <AndreaPerego> Related tweet:
>    [12]https://twitter.com/w3c/status/790985514400702464
>
>      [12] https://twitter.com/w3c/status/790985514400702464
>
>    josh: geosemantics sessions planned
>
>    <AndreaPerego> My tweet:
>    [13]https://twitter.com/AndreaPere9o/status/791184307582828544
>
>      [13] https://twitter.com/AndreaPere9o/status/791184307582828544
>
>    kerry: on w3c home page below the fold
>    ... Irish OS publishing linked data mentioned
>
>    eparsons: try reach usual suspects
>
>    <joshlieberman_> The feedback has not (cough) been overwhelming
>    so far.
>
>    linda: still work in process - danger mislead people based on
>    content so far..
>
>    ChrisLittle: will post to linkedin
>
>    eparsons: Is it clear how to comment ?
>
>    jtandy: yes it is explicit - email link
>    ... good time to provide feedback is the context
>
>    <scribe> Topic : Face to Face meeting planning
>
>    eparsons: phila would like to have a meeting before xmas
>
>    kerry: SSN not likely to come from AUS !
>    ... SSN now having weekly calls to speed up progress
>
>    <Zakim> jtandy, you wanted to propose 7, 8 or 9 Dec?
>
>    <jtandy> suggests 7, 8 or 9 and 15 or 16
>
>    <jtandy> (of Dec)
>
>    <AndreaPerego> Need to check - not sure I can make it.
>
>    Linda 15th/16th ?
>
>    Linda Just BP ?
>
>    <AndreaPerego> BTW, there's the W3C SDSVoc workshop in
>    Amsterdam on Nov 30 - 1 Dec:
>    [14]https://www.w3.org/2016/11/sdsvoc/
>
>      [14] https://www.w3.org/2016/11/sdsvoc/
>
>    <AndreaPerego> Is anyone going there?
>
>    <roba> suspect you could spend two days looking at examples and
>    working out how close they are to the BP ...
>
>    jtandy: what do we want to achieve ?
>    ... we spend 3 hours at TPAC on issues - this was very
>    useful...
>
>    Linda: F2F more helpful than telecons - not though about what
>
>    eparsons: need to decide soon
>
>    jtandy: invite coverage people
>
>    kerry: Supportive of F2F as it creates focus
>
>    AndreaPerego W3C workshop of metadata could be a good option to
>    meet also
>
>    eparsons: who could attend 15/16 dec
>
>    <Linda> +1
>
>    <ChrisLittle> +1
>
>    +1
>
>    <roba> -1
>
>    <AndreaPerego> Need to check.
>
>    <jtandy> +1
>
>    <kerry> -1 physically, probably virtually
>
>    <ClausStadler> uncertain for me
>
>    <AndreaPerego> Virtually for sure.
>
>    eparsons: I will check London locations
>
>    jtandy: Need to ping Bill tomorrow action on ed
>
>    <Linda> Geonovum meeting room is available 15th afternoon, 16th
>    whole day
>
>    <scribe> Topic : Rob's Dimensions (Rob)
>
>    <jtandy> ACTION: eparsons to query new face to face dates with
>    Bill Roberts (15 & 16 Dec) [recorded in
>    [15]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/02-sdw-minutes.html#action01]
>
>      [15] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/02-sdw-minutes.html#action01]
>
>    <trackbot> Created ACTION-216 - Query new face to face dates
>    with bill roberts (15 & 16 dec) [on Ed Parsons - due
>    2016-11-09].
>
>    <AndreaPerego> @roba, could you please post the link in the
>    IRC?
>
>    roba: QB$ST comes from datat cube community
>
>    <AndreaPerego> Found it: [16]http://w3c.github.io/sdw/qb4st/
>
>      [16] http://w3c.github.io/sdw/qb4st/
>
>    roba: Data warehouse dimensions not spatial dimensions
>    ... Good time to review doc... is it relevant ?
>    ... rdf data cube conformance therefore an extension
>    ... Until Josh's vocab is ready work arounds needed
>
>    joshlieberman: Candidate BP in ogc world can be referenced
>
>    roba: Aim for Rec track
>    ... rdf data cube not suitable to specify a crs or temporal
>    reference system for a specific location
>
>    <Zakim> jtandy, you wanted to check what ROb means by property
>
>    <Zakim> SimonCox, you wanted to ask roba if QB is the right
>    basis for spatio-temporal, or maybe need a new cube which
>    re-uses some of QB patterns?
>
>    <Zakim> jtandy, you wanted to ask where Rob sees uptake of this
>    model; is it for people seeking to reason across data or is it
>    just to provide machine readable metadata?
>
>    <jtandy> RobA said earlier: "qb is quite hard to use" ...
>    limited uptake of RDF DataCube ... does the complexity outweigh
>    the utility?
>
>    roba: answering jtandy good point - Very general patterns
>    become abstract - nobody uses
>    ... adding "missing" bits of rdf datacube without reinvention
>
>    kerry: Supports Roba's approach helpful for EO data
>
>    <kerry> bye!
>
>    <SimonCox> (Kerry's constraint is probably that some of her
>    work was with students, and Australian academic year is
>    February-November ... )
>
>    <AndreaPerego> Sorry, need to leave. Bye!
>
>    <jtandy> thanks! bye
>
>    bye all
>
>    <Linda> bye!
>
> Summary of Action Items
>
>    [NEW] ACTION: eparsons to query new face to face dates with
>    Bill Roberts (15 & 16 Dec) [recorded in
>    [17]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/02-sdw-minutes.html#action01]
>
>      [17] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/02-sdw-minutes.html#action01
>
> Summary of Resolutions
>
>     1. [18]Approve last week's minutes
>
>    [End of minutes]
>      __________________________________________________________
>
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