- From: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 16:25:58 +0100
- To: SDW WG Public List <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>
I realised that the subject line for this should have been as it now is (so you can search for Minutes-SSN) On 17/05/2016 23:47, Phil Archer wrote: > The minutes of today's SSN Sub Group meeting are at > https://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes > > Thanks to Simon for scribing. The SSN doc should be ready for FPWD > imminently. > > Text version of the minutes provided below. > > > Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference > > 17 May 2016 > > See also: [2]IRC log > > [2] http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-irc > > Attendees > > Present > SimonCox, kerry, DanhLePhuoc, robin, ByronCinNZ, > RaulGarciaCastro, kjanowic, SefkiKolozali_Unis, JRamsay, > roba, ClausStadler, ahaller2, phila > > Regrets > ScottSimmons > > Chair > Kerry > > Scribe > simon > > Contents > > * [3]Topics > 1. [4]approve minutes > http://www.w3.org/2016/05/03-sdwssn-minutes > 2. [5]patent call > 3. [6]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call > 4. [7]review FPWD http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/ > 5. [8]Documentation section 4 > 6. [9]URL for SSN & SSN-DUL > 7. [10]Modularisation section 3 > 8. [11]modularization > 9. [12]Work Plan Section 5 > 10. [13]Any other burning and essential FPWD issue > * [14]Summary of Action Items > * [15]Summary of Resolutions > __________________________________________________________ > > present > > Webex password rejected > > <RaulGarciaCastro> SimonCox: sdwssn > > <SefkiKolozali_Unis> present SefkiKolozali_Unis > > <Kerry> scribe: simon > > scribenick+ SImonCox > > <ahaller2> i am having troubles connecting, the phone keeps > dropping > > <Kerry> scribeNick: SimonCox > > <KJanowic> Cannot get the webex password to work > > approve minutes [16]http://www.w3.org/2016/05/03-sdwssn-minutes > > [16] http://www.w3.org/2016/05/03-sdwssn-minutes > > <ClausStadler> same name as the channel without the '#' > > <DanhLePhuoc> +1 > > <Kerry> +1 > > motion: approve minutes > > <RaulGarciaCastro> +1 > > <JRamsay> +1 > > <ClausStadler> +1 > > <ahaller2> +1 > > RESOLUTION: approve minutes > > item: patent call > > patent call > > <Kerry> patent call: > [17]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call > > [17] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call > > no patent items. > > [18]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call > > [18] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call > > review FPWD [19]http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/ > > [19] http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/ > > Documentation section 4 > > <Phila-offline> Apologies - BT Broadband problems (the two are > synonymous) > > SimonCox - concerned that documentation e.g. > [20]http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/#d4e892 > > [20] http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/#d4e892 > > still makes reference to 'Situation' which is DUL concept > > Kerry: yes, still based on the original SSN documentation > > <KJanowic> SimonCox: Maybe add more warning to make clear that > this documentation will be replaced (in some places). > > <ahaller2> +1 for a caveat on top > > <scribe> ACTION: Danh to add caveat related to documentation > replacement [recorded in > [21]http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action01] > > [21] http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action01] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-170 - Add caveat related to > documentation replacement [on Danh Le Phuoc - due 2016-05-24]. > > Danh: Some missing pieces of documentation, e.g. > skos:exactMatch? > > would have to be done manually > > <Kerry> ACTION: danh to write a caveat around ssn doc section > to go into ed draft to explain the doc will change in > accordance with changes of the ontology but refelct ssn as it > was [recorded in > [22]http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action02] > > [22] http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action02] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-171 - Write a caveat around ssn doc > section to go into ed draft to explain the doc will change in > accordance with changes of the ontology but refelct ssn as it > was [on Danh Le Phuoc - due 2016-05-24]. > > some dc:source information is not carried through to > automatically generated LODE documentation > > Kerry: since documentation is only in 'annotation' properties > does not matter ... > > <KJanowic> josh: fine as long as we agreed that this draft will > not later limit our proposed changes. > > josh: conflicting priorities - intent to re-factor (modular, > O&M alignment, PROV alignment) vs. need to get FPWD out, > despite content issues - we are wll clear that FPWD is not a > constraint on future revisions > > [23]http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/#Work Plan and 'Status' > section > > [23] http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/#Work > > <phila> I did a *lot* of manual editing... so I probably > introduced more than one error. > > <KJanowic> Aren't we running into problems by rushing this; If > we put out the FPWD and people start commenting on issues that > will not make it into the final version anyway? > > Armin: typo in condition description? > > <phila> <a name="blah"></a> is *so* last century... > > +1 @KJanowic > > <Kerry> ACTION: danh to fix "dition" class [recorded in > [24]http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action03] > > [24] http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action03] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-172 - Fix "dition" class [on Danh Le > Phuoc - due 2016-05-24]. > > <Kerry> Sefki saying that ssn is only human-readable, nor > machine readable > > Sefki: propose major refactor for 'timeline' support > > @KJanowic - do you want to join q? > > "<KJanowic> Aren't we running into problems by rushing this; If > we put out the FPWD and people start commenting on issues that > will not make it into the final version anyway?" > > KJanowic: group agrees that there will be major changes, so > should not issue working draft, so as not to waste people's > time commenting? > > Kerry: group lifetime is a pressure - need to publish early and > often - plenty of precedent for draftier drafts in W3C > > Purpose of FPWD is to solicit comment > > Timeline was set in Dec 2015, Feb 2016 > > ALready one month late > > There is no realistic alternative ... > > <SefkiKolozali_Unis> My question was about local restrictions > vs global restrictions. Since SSN Ontology is using global > restrictions, SSN Ontology is missing domain and range > definitions for properties. This can causes some problem when > one is parsing the ontology or mapping the ontology into a > library. > > scribe: but must be sure of support for publishing current > draft > > <Kerry> +q > > <KJanowic> @Sefki: guarded domain and range restrictions were > added on purpose vs global domains and ranges > > Armin: add comment that modularization does not yet represent > the ultimate intention > > Kerry: all in [25]http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/#Work Plan > > [25] http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/#Work > > Armin: modularization until now only relates to splitting out > DOLCE, not the other re-factoring > > <roba> Needs to be in introductory/scoping section > > Task: Armin to write words to explain intentions around > modularization, RDFS > > <Kerry> ACTION: armin to write a little more about > modul,arisation re currnet state [recorded in > [26]http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action04] > > [26] http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action04] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-173 - Write a little more about > modul,arisation re currnet state [on Armin Haller - due > 2016-05-24]. > > URL for SSN & SSN-DUL > > Currently [27]https://www.w3.org/ns/ssn/ > > [27] https://www.w3.org/ns/ssn/ > > Modularisation section 3 > > modularization > > [28]http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/#Modularisation > > [28] http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/#Modularisation > > SimonCox: segmentation text is rather hard to read - could it > be improved (examples?) > > <Kerry> ACTION: armin to add examples to modularisation > [recorded in > [29]http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action05] > > [29] http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action05] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-174 - Add examples to modularisation > [on Armin Haller - due 2016-05-24]. > > SimonCox - 'horizontal' vs 'vertical' a bit abstract > > <josh> +1 - the spatial analogy has little meaning. Axiomatic > versus subclass dimensions makes more sense > > <KJanowic> I simply forgot to consider that, sorry. Happy to > change this. > > <KJanowic> The wiki ahaller2 pointed to: > [30]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/SSN_core_modules > > [30] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/SSN_core_modules > > <roba> +1 > > Armin: "/" URIs proposed to best support modularization > ... including URIs for modules > > <Kerry> Work Plan section 5 > > Work Plan Section 5 > > [31]http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/#WorkPlan > > [31] http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/#WorkPlan > > Any other burning and essential FPWD issue > > no reponse > > SefkiKolozali_Unis: relationship with sensors/IoT > ... still unclear how to contribute > > [32]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Proposals_for_rewritin > g_SSN > > [32] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Proposals_for_rewriting_SSN > > DanhLePhuoc: add diagrams in Section 4 to explain relationship > to patterns etc > > Kerry: too late > ... but if you can add diagrams to Wiki, will be added to next > version > > <KJanowic> +1 for SamplingFeature. I also added this to the SSN > core proposal: > [33]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/SSN_core_modules > > [33] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/SSN_core_modules > > <scribe> ACTION: Kerry to add Sampling Features in Issue biox > [recorded in > [34]http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action06] > > [34] http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action06] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-175 - Add sampling features in issue > biox [on Kerry Taylor - due 2016-05-24]. > > <josh> Perhaps it just seems something to do "after" > re-factoring > > <Kerry> ACTION: kerry to put issue box around sampling features > [recorded in > [35]http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action07] > > [35] http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action07] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-176 - Put issue box around sampling > features [on Kerry Taylor - due 2016-05-24]. > > <Zakim> phila, you wanted to talk about issues > > phila: make formally tracked issues consistently > ... it is essential that issues are tracked, and that we link > to them > > WHat is mechanics to add items to tracker? > > <Kerry> w3c tracker it is > > <phila> issue: Align SSN to to implement Best Practices as > defined in our BP deliverable. > > <trackbot> Created ISSUE-42 - Align ssn to to implement best > practices as defined in our bp deliverable.. Please complete > additional details at > <[36]http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/issues/42/edit>. > > [36] http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/issues/42/edit > > issue: Add treatment of Sampling Features in SSN > > <trackbot> Created ISSUE-43 - Add treatment of sampling > features in ssn. Please complete additional details at > <[37]http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/issues/43/edit>. > > [37] http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/issues/43/edit > > <josh> bye > > <KJanowic> Thanks, bye bye > > <ahaller2> hi byron > > <roba> bye > > <ahaller2> bye > > <SefkiKolozali_Unis> bye > > <RaulGarciaCastro> Bye! > > Summary of Action Items > > [NEW] ACTION: armin to add examples to modularisation [recorded > in > [38]http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action05] > [NEW] ACTION: armin to write a little more about > modul,arisation re currnet state [recorded in > [39]http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action04] > [NEW] ACTION: Danh to add caveat related to documentation > replacement [recorded in > [40]http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action01] > [NEW] ACTION: danh to fix "dition" class [recorded in > [41]http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action03] > [NEW] ACTION: danh to write a caveat around ssn doc section to > go into ed draft to explain the doc will change in accordance > with changes of the ontology but refelct ssn as it was > [recorded in > [42]http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action02] > [NEW] ACTION: Kerry to add Sampling Features in Issue biox > [recorded in > [43]http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action06] > [NEW] ACTION: kerry to put issue box around sampling features > [recorded in > [44]http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action07] > > [38] http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action05 > [39] http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action04 > [40] http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action01 > [41] http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action03 > [42] http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action02 > [43] http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action06 > [44] http://www.w3.org/2016/05/17-sdwssn-minutes.html#action07 > > Summary of Resolutions > > 1. [45]approve minutes > > [End of minutes] > __________________________________________________________ > > -- Phil Archer W3C Data Activity Lead http://www.w3.org/2013/data/ http://philarcher.org +44 (0)7887 767755 @philarcher1
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