Re: [Minutes-SSN] 2016-03-08

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On 10/03/2016 00:53, Simon.Cox@csiro.au wrote:
> I registered my regrets several days prior.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Archer [mailto:phila@w3.org]
> Sent: Thursday, 10 March 2016 3:05 AM
> To: SDW WG Public List <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>
> Subject: [Minutes-SSN] 2016-03-08
>
> The minutes of the first SSN sub group call are at https://www.w3.org/2016/03/08-sdwssn-minutes
>
> With a text snapshot below...
>
>
>                              SDW SSN Sub Group
>
> 08 Mar 2016
>
>      See also: [2]IRC log
>
>         [2] http://www.w3.org/2016/03/08-sdwssn-irc
>
> Attendees
>
>      Present
>             Kerry, RaulGarciaCastro, DanhLePhuoc, ahaller2
>
>      Regrets
>             Oscar, Scott
>
>      Chair
>             kerry
>
>      Scribe
>             DanhLePhuoc, RaulGarciaCastro
>
> Contents
>
>        * [3]Topics
>            1. [4]Patent call
>            2. [5]Welcome to SSN-subgroup meetings
>            3. [6]FPWD
>            4. [7]Webprotege
>            5. [8]Editor’s draft
>            6. [9]Modularization
>        * [10]Summary of Action Items
>        * [11]Summary of Resolutions
>        __________________________________________________________
>
>      <kerry> trackbot, start meeting
>
>      <trackbot> Sorry, but no Tracker is associated with this
>      channel.
>
>      <kerry> trackbot, this will be sdw
>
>      <trackbot> Sorry, kerry, I don't understand 'trackbot, this
>      will be sdw'. Please refer to
>      <[12]http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
>
>        [12] http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc
>
>      <kerry> scribe: DanhLePhuoc
>
>      <kerry> scribeNick: RaulGarciaCastro
>
>      <kerry> scribe: RaulGarciaCastro
>
> Patent call
>
>      <kerry> [13]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call
>
>        [13] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call
>
> Welcome to SSN-subgroup meetings
>
>      kerry: Not many people around
>
> FPWD
>
>      kerry: We need to publish the FPWD soon
>      ... … end of March, 1st week April
>      ... … that is our first big goal
>      ... … we could publish SSN as it is now
>      ... … being ambitious, also modularization would be good
>      ... … it is important that the W3C staff sees some progress
>
>      RaulGarciaCastro: It would be nice to also include in the FPWD
>      what we plan to deliver by the end of our work
>
>      <kerry> +1
>
>      <DanhLePhuoc> +1
>
>      +1
>
>      kerry: We can talk about this next meeting (with more people)
>      ... … with the other editors
>
> Webprotege
>
>      [14]http://webprotege.stanford.edu/#Edit:projectId=dc983c6a-c14
>      4-4d5a-a2a2-1f8d25d1ad54
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>        [14]
> http://webprotege.stanford.edu/#Edit:projectId=dc983c6a-c144-4d5a-a2a2-1f8d25d1ad54
>
>      kerry: People should have rights to edit the ontology
>
>      DanhLePhuoc: Not everyone needs to have editing permissions to
>      comment
>
>      RaulGarciaCastro: If we modularise the ontology at the end we
>      will have different projects
>
>      kerry: Yes, I think it was that way
>
>      DanhLePhuoc: Right now there are two projects, not sure how to
>      link them
>
>      kerry: Where are the axioms in Webprotege?
>
>      <DanhLePhuoc>
>      [15]http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/wiki/WebProtegeUsersGuide
>
>        [15] http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/wiki/WebProtegeUsersGuide
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>      DanhLePhuoc: In the OWLEntityDescriptionBrowser tab
>
>      <DanhLePhuoc>
>      [16]http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/wiki/WebProtegeUsersGuide#T
>      he_OWL_Entity_Description_Editor
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>        [16]
> http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/wiki/WebProtegeUsersGuide#The_OWL_Entity_Description_Editor
>
>      DanhLePhuoc: … and Editor
>
>      <kerry> please look at user guid and have a go
>
>      <ahaller2> apologies for being late, what is the webex link?
>
>      <kerry> Armin, can pls give raul permission to edit on
>      webprotege!
>
>      <kerry>
>      [17]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:SSN-Telecon20
>      160308
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>        [17] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:SSN-Telecon20160308
>
>      [18]https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m7fa998124d164729c095b
>      8c83a45f52d
>
>        [18]
> https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m7fa998124d164729c095b8c83a45f52d
>
>      <ahaller2> yes, what is his username?
>
>      <kerry> armin, the webex link on that page works
>
>      sdwssn
>
>      rgcmme
>
>      that’s my user name in Webprotege
>
> Editor’s draft
>
>      <kerry> [19]http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/
>
>        [19] http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/
>
>      kerry: ahaller2 already has editing permissions in github
>
> Modularization
>
>      ahaller2: We have agreed to remove dolce
>      ... … do we need further modules?
>
>      <kerry> agree -- no precedent for this
>
>      ahaller2: … will splitting the ontology make it more usable?
>
>      <kerry> also agree -- it is no that much
>
>      kerry: multiple namespaces is annoying and you have to
>      constantly look for things you need in other places
>
>      RaulGarciaCastro: we could analyse the use cases and see what
>      extent of the ontology is expected to be used
>
>      ahaller2: All modules, even if they have different namespaces,
>      could be in the same file
>
>      DanhLePhuoc: it’s not necessary to split everything but we can
>      have different profiles
>
>      kerry: some use cases deal with observations, others with
>      platforms…
>      ... … we could do some profiling
>      ... … we can put the current modules in the W3C namespace
>
>      RaulGarciaCastro: Once we define some URIs, people will start
>      using them
>
>      ahaller2: I’m concerned of publishing something not finished
>
>      +1
>
>      <DanhLePhuoc> +1
>
>      RaulGarciaCastro: Putting the modules proposal in the FPWD
>      would make no harm
>      ... … and if everyone agrees we publish it
>      ... … and if there are concerns we wait
>
>      kerry: not just the modules, the complete modules
>      ... the ontologies themselves
>
>      DanhLePhuoc: Like in software, people could use profiles and
>      look for the origin of the different ontology components
>
>      I’m not sure I got well this last part
>
>      kerry: People could simply use the vocabulary terms of the
>      ontology, but it would be nice if reasoning can also be used
>      ... dereferencing the ontology terms should lead to the
>      ontology
>      ... … we can test this with the current splitted version of the
>      ontology
>      ... … and implementing content negotiation
>
>      ahaller2: It would be nice to have it to play
>      ... … multiple modules will also lead people to use incorrect
>      namespaces
>
>      kerry: We can do that and then discuss up to what extent
>      modularize
>
>      <kerry> ACTION: ahaller2 to get the 2 ontology modules on w3c
>      namespace with phila, to experimentation [recorded in
>      [20]http://www.w3.org/2016/03/08-sdwssn-minutes.html#action01]
>
>        [20] http://www.w3.org/2016/03/08-sdwssn-minutes.html#action01]
>
>      <trackbot> Sorry, but no Tracker is associated with this
>      channel.
>
>      kerry: if anyone wants to chair these meetings, just tell
>      ... … will be happy if people gives suggestions on topics for
>      the meeting
>
>      Bye
>
>      <kerry> rrsagent. draft minutes
>
> Summary of Action Items
>
>      [NEW] ACTION: ahaller2 to get the 2 ontology modules on w3c
>      namespace with phila, to experimentation [recorded in
>      [21]http://www.w3.org/2016/03/08-sdwssn-minutes.html#action01]
>
>        [21] http://www.w3.org/2016/03/08-sdwssn-minutes.html#action01
>
> Summary of Resolutions
>
>      [End of minutes]
>        __________________________________________________________
>

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