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Re: Discussion thread for review BP introduction

From: Jeremy Tandy <jeremy.tandy@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 17:13:52 +0000
Message-ID: <CADtUq_0MEwh-jc8yb+t8dNWyD5zD1kNtOrJ90bbwAJuqXkivbA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Frans Knibbe <frans.knibbe@geodan.nl>
Cc: Ed Parsons <eparsons@google.com>, Linda van den Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl>, "SDW WG (public-sdw-wg@w3.org)" <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>
Hi Linda- I think that the intro looks good. I particularly like the style
of your writing ... it's engaging and informal rather than dry (like a lot
of other standards documents).

The points from Frans regarding definitions are valid. We might want to
include definitions for the roles of "commercial operators", "geospatial
experts", "public sector" and "web developers" in our glossary. I can see
us re-using those labels elsewhere in the doc.

When we reference GeoJSON we need to make a citation - so it appears in the
references section [1]. We'll need to add that to the local biblio for the
doc.

( @phila: should we use the draft IETF reference [2], or the community
specification [3] )

I think that once you have addressed @eparson's comments about
accessibility and discoverability and those noted by Frans and myself the
intro is good enough for the FPWD; it sets the tone. As we add more content
into the document we can review this section to make sure it continues to
reflect the scope of the document as it evolves.

Jeremy

[1]: http://w3c.github.io/sdw/bp/#references
[2]: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-geojson-00
[3]: http://geojson.org

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 at 12:28 Frans Knibbe <frans.knibbe@geodan.nl> wrote:

> 2015-11-19 13:18 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Tandy <jeremy.tandy@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi-
>>
>> regarding Frans' point #3
>>
>> - I think it would help to have explanations for things like WFS,
>> SDI, WMS.. .Perhaps add hyperlinks to wikipedia pages explaining those
>> concepts?
>>
>> Would suggest that we include definitions pertinent to the best practice
>> within the BP doc itself (e.g. a glossary in an appendix); we can then use
>> some respec magic to refer to these definitions where ever we use those
>> terms.
>>
>
> That looks like a good idea. Keeping definitions self-contained will
> benefit durability of the document.
>
>
>> Jeremy
>>
>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 at 11:03 Ed Parsons <eparsons@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Linda, That seems a great start..
>>>
>>> Only one comment, I think we need to make the point that the key
>>> problems we are try to solve is discoverability and accessibility, it's not
>>> that there is a lack of geospatial data, but the data that has been
>>> published if difficult to find and often problematic to access for
>>> non-specialist users.  How overarching goal therefore is to bring
>>> publishing geospatial data into the web mainstream as a mechanism for
>>> solving these twin problems.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 at 10:15 Frans Knibbe <frans.knibbe@geodan.nl>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Linda,
>>>>
>>>> A few remarks:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    1. About "Spatial data, or data related to a specific location, is
>>>>    what this Best Practice is all about": Shouldn't it be 'Best Practice
>>>>    document' in stead of 'Best Practice'? And 'data related to a specific
>>>>    location' seems to exclude coverage data. Shouldn't the document provide
>>>>    best practices for coverage data too?
>>>>    2. Perhaps the introduction is not the right place, but I think
>>>>    there should be a reference to the UCR document somewhere, and the
>>>>    requirements for best practices described there;
>>>>    3. I think it would help to have explanations for things like WFS,
>>>>    SDI, WMS.. .Perhaps add hyperlinks to wikipedia pages explaining
>>>>    those concepts?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Frans
>>>>
>>>> 2015-11-19 8:27 GMT+01:00 Linda van den Brink <
>>>> l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As promised yesterday in the telecon – here’s a thread for review
>>>>> comments on the Introduction section I wrote in the BP.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please review this section:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://w3c.github.io/sdw/bp/#intro
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ... and then please post your comments as a reply to this email.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s a first draft, and I aimed to keep it short and readable. The
>>>>> language is intentionally pretty informal. Any comments are welcome at this
>>>>> stage!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Linda
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>
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>>>
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>>
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