- From: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 21:10:14 +0000
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As ever, the minutes of this week's meeting are at http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes with a snapshot below for convenience. Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference 11 Nov 2015 See also: [2]IRC log [2] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-irc Attendees Present kerry, frans, LarsG, ClemensPortele, Linda, Payam, BartvanLeeuwen, eparsons, billroberts, AndreaPerego, ahaller2, KJanowicz, phila Regrets Rachel Heaven, Jeremy Tandy, Scott Simmons, Jon Blower, Simon Cox, Matt Perry, Chris Little, Andreas Harth, Alejandro Llaves Chair Kerry Scribe clemens Contents * [3]Topics 1. [4]last meeting minutes 2. [5]Patent call 3. [6]approve Sapporo minutes 4. [7]Call for editors for Time and SSN 5. [8]UCR: Strategy to resolve issues for PWD approval 9 December 6. [9]UCR: Issue-16 Time req. out of scope - Valid time 7. [10]BP: Expanding best practice topics 8. [11]Reminder: next F2F Netherlands 8-10 Feb 2016 * [12]Summary of Action Items __________________________________________________________ <trackbot> Date: 11 November 2015 <kerry> scribe: clemens <kerry> scribenick: ClemensPortele last meeting minutes [13]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/25-sdw-minutes [13] http://www.w3.org/2015/10/25-sdw-minutes [14]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/26-sdw-minutes [14] http://www.w3.org/2015/10/26-sdw-minutes <kerry> +1 <Linda> +1 <Payam> +1 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1 <KJanowicz> +1 kerry: approving minutes... <LarsG> 0 (wasn't there...) kerry: minutes approved <kerry> [15]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call [15] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call Patent call (nothing declared) <frans> I think we just approved the sapporo minutes but not the minutes last weeks meeting? <eparsons> +1 <kerry> [16]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/26-sdw-minutes [16] http://www.w3.org/2015/10/26-sdw-minutes approve Sapporo minutes <BartvanLeeuwen> +1 <kerry> [17]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/25-sdw-minutes [17] http://www.w3.org/2015/10/25-sdw-minutes <Linda> +1 <eparsons> Proposed : Approve F2F Meeting Minutues <kerry> +1 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1 <KJanowicz> +1 <eparsons> Approved : Approve F2F Meeting Minutes Call for editors for Time and SSN kerry: asks for volunteers <KJanowicz> Happy to help editing the SSN kerry: contact Kerry or Ed, if you are interested ... there is interest already, but please come forward, if you are interested UCR: Strategy to resolve issues for PWD approval 9 December kerry: goal is clean up and new public draft ... ...then OGC and W3C processes ... ...should take roughly 9 days to get them through both organisations ... ...reminder this is not the final version, but should become more and more stable BartvanLeeuwen: is there room for new use cases? frans: yes, until the document is final there is room, but the sooner the better BartvanLeeuwen: hopes to have it before the end of the year, so probably after the 2nd PWD ... it is already recorded as an action (ACTION-89?) kerry: match the use case and the products frans: tracker has matches, some issues are still open - with a discussion thread ... proposing to shift responsibility for resolving from UCR editors to the editors of the other deliverables <frans> ISSUE-15: time <trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-15 Time req. not clear - represent past, present and future. <frans> ISSUE-18: coverage <frans> ISSUE-19: coverage <frans> ISSUE-20: SSN <trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-18 Model Reuse. <trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-19 Multiple types of coverage requirement. <trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-20 Reference external vocabularies. <frans> ISSUE-23: BP <frans> ISSUE-24: SSN <trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-23 phrasing of the spatial operators requirement. <trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-24 clarification of lightweight APIs requirement. <frans> ISSUE-26: time <trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-26 clarification of temporal vagueness requirement. frans: ... these editors need to look at the use cases anyhow <frans> ISSUE-28: BP <trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-28 That a default crs is a requirement. <frans> ISSUE-29: BP <trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-29 Add a requirement for linking geometry to CRS. <frans> ISSUE-30: BP <trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-30 UCR: missing requirement -- local/contextual spatial references. frans: any comments on the proposal? eparsons: a sensible way forward frans: we could create actions for each deliverable / issue pair kerry: sounds good <scribe> ACTION: frans to create actions that matches UCR issues and deliverables [recorded in [18]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action01] [18] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action01] <trackbot> Created ACTION-93 - Create actions that matches ucr issues and deliverables [on Frans Knibbe - due 2015-11-18]. <eparsons> Thank you Frans !!! kerry: anything else for UCR, frans? frans: join the discussions UCR: Issue-16 Time req. out of scope - Valid time <kerry> [19]http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/issues/16 [19] http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/issues/16 frans: special attention on ISSUE-16, is not related to a particular deliverable <phila> issue-16? <trackbot> issue-16 -- Time req. out of scope - Valid time -- open <trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/issues/16 [20] http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/issues/16 frans: should we discuss now? <BartvanLeeuwen> +1 frans: problematic without Simon etc (agreement to move to next week) kerry: follow the list and let's try to get to a conclusion next week <kerry> BP: Expanding best practice topics BP: Expanding best practice topics kerry: not much time until 9 December Linda: in Sapporo most of the meeting was spent on BP ... ...discussion on narratives, took notes during discussion ... ...currently post-processing the notes to prepare topics that other could provide content or examples <Linda> [21]http://w3c.github.io/sdw/bp/#bp-linking [21] http://w3c.github.io/sdw/bp/#bp-linking Linda: linking data is the first topic <Linda> - How to make the links within a dataset discoverable Linda: anyone who could provide input how to create good links, get the right granularity, etc? BartvanLeeuwen: is working on a demo for bridging WFS and linked data ... Is that something that is relevant for this topic? Linda: Yes <BartvanLeeuwen> +1 <kerry> ACTION: bart to write about make the links within the dataset discoverable [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action02] [22] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action02] <trackbot> Created ACTION-94 - Write about make the links within the dataset discoverable [on Bart van Leeuwen - due 2015-11-18]. <KJanowicz> Bart: wrt WFS and Linked Data, see [23]http://carsten.io/jones-kuhn-kessler-scheider-agile2014.pdf (and other implementations) [23] http://carsten.io/jones-kuhn-kessler-scheider-agile2014.pdf kerry: clarification about the process? email ok or change Github directly? Linda: Both fine, as long as we get the content frans: what kind of links? all links or spatial links? Linda: not specified, but should be related to spatial aspects, eg also links into spatial datasets eparsons: could be linking to a thing or the spatial representation, there may be a difference <BartvanLeeuwen> [24]http://w3c.github.io/sdw/bp/#h-bp-clear-semantics [24] http://w3c.github.io/sdw/bp/#h-bp-clear-semantics <phila> Yes, it was Linksets <KJanowicz> +1 BartvanLeeuwen: need to clarify what's in scope, what's spatial <BartvanLeeuwen> +1 <AndreaPerego> +1 eparsons: need to clarify that something without a geometry may be considered spatial and within scope of our work <kerry> ACTION: linda to add to scope and link data section -- comment o spatail data without a geometry is in scope here [recorded in [25]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action03] [25] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action03] <trackbot> Created ACTION-95 - Add to scope and link data section -- comment o spatail data without a geometry is in scope here [on Linda van den Brink - due 2015-11-18]. Linda: will add this to the BP frans: where one is coming from will influence how that topic is understood ... ...different audiences may require a different wording <kerry> +1 to serve both groups of readers in same doc Linda: not clear yet how to address this <BartvanLeeuwen> +1 for one document <eparsons> +1 to serve both may need to be more explicit as a result.. <Zakim> phila, you wanted to say reduce your assumptions phila: agrees with frans ... one document, we just need to be clear and make no assumptions about prior knowledge <frans> Or: make liberal use of the ability to link to definitions <phila> <abbr title="World Wide Web Consortium">W3C</abbr> phila: maybe use abbr mechanism in more cases kerry: this is about more than just acronyms ... need to think how to present the different viewpoints, likely after 9 December <Linda> - Making your spatial data more useful by including links to wellknown spatial resources (things like GeoNames, Wiki/dbPedia, OSM etc) Linda: any volunteers for this topic? billroberts: I can have a go at that <kerry> ACTION: billroberts to write on make the links within the dataset discoverable [recorded in [26]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action04] [26] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action04] <trackbot> Error finding 'billroberts'. You can review and register nicknames at <[27]http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/users>. [27] http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/users <kerry> actio <Linda> - Example of how you could link to a particular version of a thing <phila> ACTION: roberts to write on make the links within the dataset discoverable [recorded in [28]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action05] [28] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action05] <trackbot> Created ACTION-96 - Write on make the links within the dataset discoverable [on Bill Roberts - due 2015-11-18]. Linda: any volunteers for this topic? in particular an example... <BartvanLeeuwen> +q frans: what is the spatial aspect? eparsons: not particularly spatial, but occurs often with spatial data frans: I experienced it more as a temporal than a spatial problem <Zakim> phila, you wanted to talk about Annette Grainier phila: discussed with DWBP group whether that group has subsetting use case that is not spatial ... will follow up on this to clarify relationship between groups <kerry> ACTION: phila to work on subsetting links [recorded in [29]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action06] [29] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action06] <trackbot> Created ACTION-97 - Work on subsetting links [on Phil Archer - due 2015-11-18]. kerry: there is a topic in the DWBP, but high level - we probably need to go deeper phila: either provide DWBP with better text or we add it in our own kerry: probably in our own for now billroberts: versioning should be in scope, but reference elsewhere and put it in a "spatial context" using an example Linda: agrees, it should be an example (discussion about whether a best practice on this topic already exists) frans: how to match requirements Linda: but should be done without loosing the narrative flow <Linda> - A list/matrix of the common formats (GeoJSON, GML, RDF, JSON-LD) and what you can or can't achieve with it. <frans> RDF is a format? Linda: any volunteers? phila: this will require input from more than one person and may trigger quite a bit of discussion kerry: maybe a first attempt for now? <KJanowicz> frans: not in a strict sense <kerry> ACTION: clemens to look at A list/matrix of the common formats (GeoJSON, GML, RDF, JSON-LD) and what you can or can't achieve with it. [recorded in [30]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action07] [30] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action07] <trackbot> Created ACTION-98 - Look at a list/matrix of the common formats (geojson, gml, rdf, json-ld) and what you can or can't achieve with it. [on Clemens Portele - due 2015-11-18]. Reminder: next F2F Netherlands 8-10 Feb 2016 kerry: put Feb 8/9/10 in your calendar <frans> 8th of february? Bring your ice skates <phila> Looking forward to being in NL again <KJanowicz> where exactly will the meeting take place? <BartvanLeeuwen> Amersfoort <frans> We have one hill, no mountains <BartvanLeeuwen> ACTION: to BartvanLeeuwen create a wikipage with information and participants [recorded in [31]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action08] [31] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action08] <trackbot> Error finding 'to'. You can review and register nicknames at <[32]http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/users>. [32] http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/users <phila> [33]Amersfoort [33] https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Amersfoort,+Netherlands/@52.1590355,5.0976695,10z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x47c65a9d79977bf1:0x3c16cc2a7f76991e <BartvanLeeuwen> ACTION: to Bart create a wikipage with information and participants [recorded in [34]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action09] [34] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action09] <trackbot> Error finding 'to'. You can review and register nicknames at <[35]http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/users>. [35] http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/users <BartvanLeeuwen> ACTION: to bart create a wikipage with information and participants [recorded in [36]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action10] [36] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action10] <trackbot> Error finding 'to'. You can review and register nicknames at <[37]http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/users>. [37] http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/users <phila> ACTION: Bart to create a wikipage with information and participants [recorded in [38]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action11] [38] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action11] <trackbot> Created ACTION-99 - Create a wikipage with information and participants [on Bart van Leeuwen - due 2015-11-18]. <AndreaPerego> Thanks and bye <Linda> meeting location: [39]http://www.geonovum.nl/contact/adres-en-route [39] http://www.geonovum.nl/contact/adres-en-route <eparsons> thanks bye ! <KJanowicz> thanks, bye bye <billroberts> thanks, bye <BartvanLeeuwen> ths bye thanks and bye! <kerry> bye! <Payam> thanks, bye <LarsG> thanks, bye <ahaller2> thanks, bye Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Bart to create a wikipage with information and participants [recorded in [40]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action11] [NEW] ACTION: bart to write about make the links within the dataset discoverable [recorded in [41]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: billroberts to write on make the links within the dataset discoverable [recorded in [42]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action04] [NEW] ACTION: clemens to look at A list/matrix of the common formats (GeoJSON, GML, RDF, JSON-LD) and what you can or can't achieve with it. [recorded in [43]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action07] [NEW] ACTION: frans to create actions that matches UCR issues and deliverables [recorded in [44]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action01] [NEW] ACTION: linda to add to scope and link data section -- comment o spatail data without a geometry is in scope here [recorded in [45]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action03] [NEW] ACTION: phila to work on subsetting links [recorded in [46]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action06] [NEW] ACTION: roberts to write on make the links within the dataset discoverable [recorded in [47]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action05] [NEW] ACTION: BartvanLeeuwen to create a wikipage with information and participants [recorded in [48]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action08] [40] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action11 [41] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action02 [42] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action04 [43] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action07 [44] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action01 [45] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action03 [46] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action06 [47] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action05 [48] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-sdw-minutes.html#action08 [End of minutes] __________________________________________________________
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