- From: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 19:52:59 +0100
- To: SDW WG Public List <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>
The minutes of today's meeting are at
http://www.w3.org/2015/07/08-sdw-minutes. Sorry I wasn't able to be
there. Glad to see an issue resolved!
As usual, a text snapshot of the minutes is provided below for your
convenience.
Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference
08 Jul 2015
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2015/07/08-sdw-irc
Attendees
Present
kerry, LarsG, Alejandro_Llaves, Frans, Bart, van,
Leeuwen, ClemensPortele, MattPerry, AndreaPerego, cory,
billroberts
Regrets
Jeremy, Linda, Ed, Phil, Andreas, Simon, Stefan_Lemme,
Josh, Stefan, Lemme
Chair
Kerry
Scribe
ClemensPortele
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]requirements issue-12
2. [5]best practice designissues
3. [6]approve the minutes
4. [7]W3C and OGC patent calls
5. [8]Sapporo
6. [9]AOB?
* [10]Summary of Action Items
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requirements issue-12
<ChrisLittle> * Clemens, could you mute while typing please
<Frans> Lots of background noise!
<Alejandro_Llaves>
[11]http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/issues/12
[11] http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/issues/12
<BartvanLeeuwen> kerry, could you mute yourself ?
<ClemensPortele> Chris, I am muted locally
<ClemensPortele> Alejandro_Llaves: issue 12 from Barcelona
<ClemensPortele> Alejandro_Llaves: for now excluded as
considered out-of-scope, but we have the issue still open
<ClemensPortele> Alejandro_Llaves: for discussion at f2f
meeting, but does not seem important for use cases
<ClemensPortele> Alejandro_Llaves: comments anyone?
<ChrisLittle> * clemens apologies
<ClemensPortele> kerry: maybe not covered by a use case, but
seems to be a requirement from IoT community
<ClemensPortele> kerry: suggestion to close the issue for now,
but add an action to discuss this with them later
<Alejandro_Llaves> +1
<kerry> ACTION: kerry to keep in contact with WoT re actuation
[recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2015/07/08-sdw-minutes.html#action01]
[12] http://www.w3.org/2015/07/08-sdw-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-58 - Keep in contact with wot re
actuation [on Kerry Taylor - due 2015-07-15].
<ClemensPortele> ACTION: Alejandro_Llaves to close issue-12
[recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2015/07/08-sdw-minutes.html#action02]
[13] http://www.w3.org/2015/07/08-sdw-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Error finding 'Alejandro_Llaves'. You can review and
register nicknames at
<[14]http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/users>.
[14] http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/users
<Alejandro_Llaves> close issue 12
best practice designissues
<Alejandro_Llaves> close: issue-12
<Alejandro_Llaves> :(
<Payam> A good sample for best practice:
[15]http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html
[15] http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html
<kerry>
[16]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:Telecon201507
08
[16] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150708
<kerry> Are we focussing on "linked data" -- can we use JSON-LD
as out primary encoding for each BP, then supplement where
necessary?
<ClemensPortele> kerry: Jeremy was keen on using JSON-LD in BPs
<BartvanLeeuwen> +1
<ClemensPortele> Payam: Editors want to avoid the "usual"
basics (have metadata, etc); just reference this as a basis
<kerry> +1
<ClemensPortele> Payam: Editors do not want a tutorial
<ClemensPortele> Payam: But be clear about things to avoid
<LarsG> +1 to technology independence
<ClemensPortele> Payam: Idea is to use JSON-LD (and other
formats) in examples, but be clear that this is just an example
<ChrisLittle> +1 to technology independence
<ChrisLittle> +1 to things to avoid as well as BP
<ClemensPortele> Payam: Approach will be to go requirements and
try to group them
<AndreaPerego> I think that what we mean with "technology
independence" needs to be clarified.
<ClemensPortele> Payam: Editors will work on a proposal and
present it to the group
<ClemensPortele> Payam: Plan is to have a draft available for
f2f meeting
<billroberts> I think using JSON-LD for examples is a good
idea. Reasonably readable and the JSON bit will be familiar to
many non-lD people
<ClemensPortele> AndreaPerego: regarding referencing vs
repeating - we need to be careful; is referencing general (we
inherit all of Data on the Web BP) or are we specific with
references
<ClemensPortele> AndreaPerego: "technology independence" - what
do we mean by this? the web is a platform that has its own
technologies
<ClemensPortele> Payam: agrees, document should also be
self-sufficient, but should not go into detail with content
included in Data on the Web BP
<ClemensPortele> +1 on make references specific (to be clear
which requirements or BPs are meant)
<ClemensPortele> kerry: agrees on being technical, but no
making the BP a tutorial
<Frans> The scope of the Spatial Data on the Web Working Group,
SDWWG, is Web technologies as they may be applied to location.
Where relevant, it will promote Linked Data using the 5 Stars
of Linked Data paradigm, but this will not be to the exclusion
of other technologies.
<ClemensPortele> Frans: points out the statement in the
charter; does everyone agree with this or is a change necessary
<AndreaPerego> No change needed, IMO.
<ClemensPortele> Payam: sees the approach discussed consistent
with the charter
<ClemensPortele> +1 for no change needed
<kerry> +1 I think we "assume" as frans suggested
<ClemensPortele> Frans: do we assume linked data to be the best
practice or are we looking at each UC/Req?
<ClemensPortele> Payam: In many cases linked data is one
approach, but others are (equally) valid as well
<ClemensPortele> ... discussion about "best practice"
(singular) vs "best practices" (plural)
<ClemensPortele> BartvanLeeuwen: Data on the Web had a similar
discussion
<ClemensPortele> BartvanLeeuwen: Approach there is linked data
is included in the scope, but not the exclusive approach
<ClemensPortele> kerry: suggests to discuss this when we have a
concrete BP example
<billroberts> (sorry forgot before)
<billroberts> +1 agree easier to comment and refine when we can
discuss a concrete first draft
<ClemensPortele> Payam: idea was to not assume a certain
technology to be the best practice for all use cases
<AndreaPerego> I would say a certain "Web" technology
<billroberts> I liked Jeremy's explanation of the publishers
and consumers relationship
<ClemensPortele> AndreaPerego: the web should be the basis (not
linked data as such), this is the minimal requirement
<kerry> agree we must use uris and also we must link!
<ClemensPortele> Payam: agrees with Andrea
<Payam> [17]http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html
[17] http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html
<ClemensPortele> kerry: agrees with Jeremy's proposal to use
the DWBP as a template, but extend to cover both
publisher/consumer perspectives
<ClemensPortele> Frans: publishers may also have their own
requirements beyond the consumer requirements
<BartvanLeeuwen> +1
<ClemensPortele> kerry: should we ask editors to use the
"template" and create an example?
<AndreaPerego> +1
<ClemensPortele> Frans: a good idea; maybe from the metadata
ones?
<AndreaPerego> +1 to metadata
<billroberts> I hear a bit of background noise from somewhere
but no speaking (except for Kerry)
<Frans> Good idea to make suggestions on the list
<ClemensPortele> kerry: please make suggestions on the list
where to start
<ClemensPortele> Payam: editors will work on the grouping
<ClemensPortele> kerry: maybe do both (grouping, example) in
parallel
<Frans> I like the idea of picking one BP requirement as an
example
approve the minutes
<Payam> +1
<billroberts> (missed last week's call so can't vote)
<AndreaPerego> [18]http://www.w3.org/2015/07/01-sdw-minutes
[18] http://www.w3.org/2015/07/01-sdw-minutes
<Frans> Kerry, you also did not do the patent call
<Alejandro_Llaves> +1
<ChrisLittle> +1 minutes
<MattPerry> +1
<kerry> [19]http://www.w3.org/2015/07/01-sdw-minutes.html
[19] http://www.w3.org/2015/07/01-sdw-minutes.html
<AndreaPerego> I was not there
<cory> +1
<kerry> +1
<LarsG> +1
<MattPerry> +1
W3C and OGC patent calls
<Frans> I have not read the minutes entirely yet
Sapporo
<ClemensPortele> kerry: reminder to register for TPAC
<ClemensPortele> kerry: idea is to finalise 1st working draft
BP
<ClemensPortele> kerry: start work on ontologies
<ClemensPortele> kerry: status at OGC?
<ClemensPortele> ClemensPortele: email vote started (low
turnout in OGC DWG telecon)
AOB?
<ChrisLittle> Bye and Thank you
<Alejandro_Llaves> thanks, bye!
<AndreaPerego> Thanks and bye!
<billroberts> ok, thanks very much, bye!
<ClemensPortele> bye
<MattPerry> bye
<Payam> bye
<Frans> have a good week
<AndreaPerego> rsagent, draft minutes
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Alejandro_Llaves to close issue-12 [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2015/07/08-sdw-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: kerry to keep in contact with WoT re actuation
[recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2015/07/08-sdw-minutes.html#action01]
[20] http://www.w3.org/2015/07/08-sdw-minutes.html#action02
[21] http://www.w3.org/2015/07/08-sdw-minutes.html#action01
[End of minutes]
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Received on Wednesday, 8 July 2015 18:53:12 UTC