RE: More detailed requirements

Yes, please, Peter! +1 Ideally, not just a reference but a sentence or  a paragraph explaining what the reference has in that we need to know.

Kerry

From: Peter Baumann [mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de]
Sent: Wednesday, 15 April 2015 8:32 PM
To: Linda van den Brink; SDW WG (public-sdw-wg@w3.org)
Subject: Re: More detailed requirements

perfect - thanks, Linda! I will go this avenue.
-Peter
On 04/15/2015 12:23 PM, Linda van den Brink wrote:
Hi Peter,

+1 for a page describing the capabilities of existing standards. I think the right place is already on the wiki (correct me if I'm wrong anyone).

You can find it under https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Main_Page#Work_in_Progress. For each of the four main deliverables, there's a page XXX References, e.g. https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Cov_References. There's already an entry for WCS there. You could create a sub page linked from there where the capabilities are described.

Linda

Van: Peter Baumann [mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de]
Verzonden: woensdag 15 april 2015 12:14
Aan: Linda van den Brink; SDW WG (public-sdw-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-sdw-wg@w3.org>)
Onderwerp: Re: More detailed requirements

Dear Linda, all,

it's exciting to follow this discussion. Incidentally, OGC Big Geo Data standards, WCS and WCPS, already have some answers, and their concepts are of course independent from the syntactic wrapper, so they can be transposed into RDF world as well.

Question: can we have, in parallel to the requirements collection, a page describing the capabilities of existing standards so that a matching can be accomplished by referencing? Might ease to find white spots on the map, as well as reaping the benefits of existing accomplishments?

I can gladly start such a page, but as a newbie I am glad to get pointed to the right place for doing that.

cheers,
Peter


On 04/15/2015 12:00 PM, Linda van den Brink wrote:
Hi all,

As I mentioned in a separate email we (Geonovum) are currently reviewing the requirements and trying to make sense of them and add more detail to them.  This is a little bit ahead of the work of the SDWWG, but I think could be relevant to the question of how to structure the UCR document. As an example, please find below one requirement with our questions and more detailed sub-requirements.

1.             It should be easy to find spatial data on the web
1.1           Non-experts should be able to find spatial data on the web through free-text searches
1.2           Spatial data on the web - datasets as well as single objects - should be findable through numerous ontologies/synonyms
1.3           Popular search engines should be able to find spatial data on the web (see requirement #5)
1.4           It should be possible to add semantics and structure to spatial data on the web (through existing mechanisms e.g. schema.org, Location Core)
1.5           Human/computer search mechanisms must be able to search for spatial entities/objects within datasets
1.6           There should be standardized search filters (e.g. within, nearby) for spatial data that are supported by popular search engines
1.7           Spatial objects should be findable through a (set of) basic/primitive spatial property e.g. centroid (see requirement #2).
1.8           Metadata should be inseparable from the data it describes
1.9           It should be possible for users to annotate (add tags and links to other datasets) the (meta)information they find (so that search is improved)
1.10         APIs and "smart" geo-services (e.g. WPS, WFS) should be (made) crawlable

Questions about this requirement:

-          What are the problems of current data finding mechanisms? Is it lack of suitable technologies or lack of robust governance structures (i.e. high quality publishing process, robust maintenance process, etc.)? One problem could be that spatial data is published through mechanisms that are not in itself crawlable. E.g. WFS services or atom feeds (in non-standard formats). See also last bullet.

-          Through what mechanism is the entity (human/machine) searching for data? Centralized registers? Decentralized (but linked) registers? Free-text searches? (in our opinion at least free text search)

-          Which data/information properties are queried: keywords, extent, timespan, free-text fields, crowdsourced tags, location (using spatial operators), zoom level/resolution/level of detail, coordinate system, place name, license?

-          How should APIs and "smart" geo-services (.e.g WFS) be indexed?

We have similar sub-requirements (and questions) about several of the other requirements, but have not quite gotten through the list. Should we put all this somewhere on the wiki?

Linda
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