- From: Ed Parsons <eparsons@google.com>
- Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 14:39:14 +0000
- To: Neil McNaughton <neilmcn@oilit.com>, "public-sdw-comments@w3.org" <public-sdw-comments@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAHrFjcnyWQpqGLaYV0YpLa4txEh+W3uPVPF9mUrjnirJmsO7XQ@mail.gmail.com>
Thank you! Ed On Tue, 4 Apr 2017 at 15:32 Neil McNaughton <neilmcn@oilit.com> wrote: > OK for me > > > > Best regards > > Neil McNaughton - @neilmcn <http://www.twitter.com/neilmcn> > > Editor and Publisher, Oil IT Journal > > Now in its 22nd year! - Sign up for our free headlines > <headlines@oilit.com?subject=Oil%20IT%20Journal%20Headlines%20Please> > service*. > > Oil IT Journal is published by The Data Room SARL > > 7 Rue des Verrieres > > 92310 Sevres, France > > Cell - +336 7271 2642 <+33%206%2072%2071%2026%2042> > > Tel - +331 4623 9596 <+33%201%2046%2023%2095%2096> > > info@oilit.com/http://www.oilit.com > > [image: LinkedIn] <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/neil-mcnaughton/6/498/243> > > > > ** Around 10 email updates /year and we do not share your details with > third parties.* > > > > > > > > *From:* Ed Parsons [mailto:eparsons@google.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 04, 2017 3:17 PM > *To:* Neil McNaughton <neilmcn@oilit.com>; public-sdw-comments@w3.org > *Subject:* Re: Geographic metadata in Spatial Data on the Web Best > Practices > > > > Hello Neil, > > > > I am working my way through the public comments made to the Spatial Data > on the Web working group prior to the release of final draft of the Best > Practice Document, current version here https://www.w3.org/TR/sdw-bp/ > > > > Hopefully you will notice a section that deals specifically with > approaches to making metadata about spatial data including ISO 19115 > compliant metadata more accessible - there is more work to do in this > section before the final draft, but you very valid point about the value of > existing metadata records has been taken onboard. > > > > https://www.w3.org/TR/sdw-bp/#bp-metadata > > > > Would you allow me to therefore mark this comment as closed ? > > > > Many thanks for your contribution. > > > > Ed > > Co-Chair W3C/OGC Spatial Data on the Web Working Group > > > > On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 at 21:45 Rob Atkinson <rob@metalinkage.com.au> wrote: > > Another perspective - spatial data on the web - in any form - requires > rich and flexible metadata to make it discoverable, invokable and > interpretable - and a "semantic web" is really the only candidate for > interoperable, canonical forms of this metadata.I say this because there > are already some useful components available for re-use - and the > meta-model supports the key multi-inheritance patterns we will care about > when describing resource behaviours from multiple user perspectives. > > > > Linked Data provides a minimalist approach to this - linking using > dereferencerable URIs it can be implemented agnostically of the encoding - > HTML, RDF/XML, RDF-TTL, JSON-LD etc. IMHO it allows an incremental > development of interoperability without needing to finalise a single shared > information model. > > > > If we choose the Web - then we are also really choosing URI based > vocabularies for key concepts - and the question is what are the minimal > set of concepts we need to define to support some specific level of > interoperability between these notional metadata graphs. IMHO the business > of making the data itself interoperable is handled elsewhere by defining > domain models and encodings - and these may or may not involve RDF - so the > critical part of the SDW scope really is all about discovery and linking. > > > > That said, there is also a part about defining vocubularies for > spatio/temporal concepts - and these should naturally be common across the > data and metadata - so a semweb-oriented approach to these is a short-term > enabler - but doesnt necessarily mean that SDW needs to proscribe data as > RDF as the only way forward. > > > > Rob Atkinson > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 at 23:14 Erik Wilde <erik.wilde@dret.net> wrote: > > hello neil. > > On 2016-03-07 10:02, Neil McNaughton wrote: > > /Another comment – there is no mention of the semantic web. Has this to > > all intents and purposes been replaced by “Linked Data?” Is this just a > > buzzword swap or has something more substantial happened? I ask because > > the ‘payload’ of the /Spatial Data on the Web Best Practices document > > appears to be relations mapped in “OWL, SKOS, RDFS” which to the casual > > observer sounds like the semantic web.// > > yes, "linked data" is a rebranding of "semantic web", plus a few > additional constraints (most importantly: "use dereferencable HTTP URIs > for everything"). > > fyi, there have been discussions on whether SDW should be RDF-centric or > not. some (including myself) have argued that "the web" is much wider > than the "semantic web", and that the draft in its current form should > either be titled "spatial data on the semantic web", or should be > changed to be agnostic of a specific metamodel and simply recommend > patterns and best practices derived from web architecture. > > to this end, http://dret.github.io/webdata/ is something that could > serve as a foundation or starting point: it talks about the principles > of web architecture without mandating one specific metamodel. it's > basically "linked data minus requiring RDF". > > this issue of "the current BP draft is for semweb users only" has been > raised before. it remains to be seen which path the WG and the spec are > going to take. > > cheers, > > dret. > > -- > erik wilde | mailto:erik.wilde@dret.net | > | http://dret.net/netdret | > | http://twitter.com/dret | > > -- > > > *Ed Parsons *FRGS > Geospatial Technologist, Google > > +44 7825 382263 <07825%20382263> @edparsons > www.edparsons.com > -- *Ed Parsons *FRGS Geospatial Technologist, Google +44 7825 382263 @edparsons www.edparsons.com
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