- From: Brian Kardell <bkardell@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:09:32 -0500
- To: Clint Hill <clint.hill@gmail.com>
- Cc: Marcos Caceres <w3c@marcosc.com>, public-script-coord@w3.org
- Message-ID: <CADC=+jdBgiV16SPi-ZFXdVHDuZU8AoY7Z18j0BX8JYYp-eys5A@mail.gmail.com>
On Feb 25, 2013 10:02 AM, "Clint Hill" <clint.hill@gmail.com> wrote: > > I would argue that there has been developer pain with console in > particular. I provide IE 8 & 9 as clear examples of the console host > object being inconveniently non-standardized. > > > On 2/25/13 7:54 AM, "Marcos Caceres" <w3c@marcosc.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >On Monday, 25 February 2013 at 14:47, Robin Berjon wrote: > > > >> To reinforce what Marcos was saying: this isn't about not doing it. > >> We're simply asking the question of whether it's worth spending time on. > >> > >> Building a standard is expensive. A lot of the time, that cost is small > >> compared to the savings it brings to developers (and users, but that's > >> less obvious here) and so we just do it. But here, a few of us are > >> wondering if there really is that much pain on the developer side. > >> > >> I've never noticed much in the way of problems with the console API, but > >> I'll readily admit that I'm quite unsophisticated in my usage of it, and > >> while I use it every day it's pretty much just for console.log(). > >> > >> If there's a clear case of developer pain (as opposed to making a > >> standard because it's neater) then I'm certainly happy to see it happen. > >> > >> If that happens, I don't know if TC39 wants it or not, but in case it's > >> rather not then I can think of at least two groups in W3C that we could > >> likely bring this work to speedily (i.e. without having to worry about > >> chartering and such issues). > > > >I'll add that if this is about authoritative access to developer > >documentation, then this should be done on webplatform.org. That's now > >the authoritative place to document the Web platform for developers, > >AFAIK. > > > >_However_, if evidence of interoperability issues can be presented, and > >those are causing developer pain, then that makes for a stronger case for > >standardisation. > > > >-- > >Marcos Caceres > >http://datadriven.com.au > > > > > > > > > > > > If we are talking ecma beyond browsers, other engines are much more sparse in implementation as noted in my strawman.
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