Re: IPTC Sport Schema

Issue created:

https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/4372

Feel free to re-word or narrow the scope if this is too broad.

Looking forward to this!


> On Mar 5, 2025, at 13:43, Ryan Levering <rrlevering@google.com> wrote:
> 
> I see your delay and raise you several months. :)
> 
> Yeah, I think a class comparison would be good.  I think we'd want to:
> a) Make sure there are not strong incompatibilities
> b) Have some references on both sides to explain the relationship (like maybe in docs for the SportsTeam or something like that)
> 
> We've been talking about this in the context of other schema as well and figuring out how to allow schema.org to be extended in a lightweight manner.  Do you wanna open up a schema.org issue about this on github?  That might be the best way to track this specific thread.
> 
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 2:25 PM Paul Kelly <paul@polvo.ca> wrote:
> Thanks Ryan, that’s very encouraging. What do you think next steps for bringing the two ontologies together could be? A comparison of classes like we’ve done here? https://sportschema.org/other-models/
> 
> And would this be the best forum to carry on those discussions?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul
> 
> PS: Sorry for the delayed response
> 
> 
> > On Nov 26, 2024, at 9:29 AM, Ryan Levering <rrlevering@google.com> wrote:
> > 
> > schema.org usually has the unfortunate goal of having a simpler/less valid ontology coincident with a better one.  So in schema.org we can use Role to specify time-limited memberships like you encode in this schema directly.  But we also allow so#athlete as a time snapshot for membership (which is frankly more used).  We also have so#homeTeam and so#awayTeam which are again shortcuts for your participation alignments.  But the IPTC schema seems like a great model to push in the direction of and I think many of the types there could be directly co-typed with schema.org types without problems.
> > 
> > On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:52 PM Paul Kelly <paul@polvo.ca> wrote:
> > Hi Public Schema/Schema.org <http://schema.org/> people, it’s been a while since I’ve participated here. I’m Paul Kelly, lead of the IPTC’s sports content group.
> > 
> > I’m writing to tell you about the IPTC’s ontology for representing sports competitions and results in RDF. It’s called IPTC Sport Schema and you can check it out here:
> > 
> > https://sportschema.org/
> > 
> > Here’s a diagram:
> > 
> > https://sportschema.org/schema-diagram/
> > 
> > The site has samples, a SPARQL endpoint and copious documentation. There have been initiatives in the past for representing sports data on the web. Any interest still?
> > 
> > Apart from structuring complex competitions and athlete histories, we incorporated a slew of sports vocabs that arose from the IPTC’s SportsML standard:
> > 
> > https://cv.iptc.org/newscodes#sportcvs
> > 
> > I’d like to hear any thoughts people on this list might have about what we’ve done. This thing will evolve and your contributions are welcome and appreciated.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Paul Kelly
> > 
> > -----
> > Paul Kelly
> > Lead, IPTC Sports Content Working Group
>

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