Re: IPTC Sport Schema

I see your delay and raise you several months. :)

Yeah, I think a class comparison would be good.  I think we'd want to:
a) Make sure there are not strong incompatibilities
b) Have some references on both sides to explain the relationship (like
maybe in docs for the SportsTeam or something like that)

We've been talking about this in the context of other schema as well and
figuring out how to allow schema.org to be extended in a lightweight
manner.  Do you wanna open up a schema.org issue about this on github?
That might be the best way to track this specific thread.

On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 2:25 PM Paul Kelly <paul@polvo.ca> wrote:

> Thanks Ryan, that’s very encouraging. What do you think next steps for
> bringing the two ontologies together could be? A comparison of classes like
> we’ve done here? https://sportschema.org/other-models/
>
> And would this be the best forum to carry on those discussions?
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
>
> PS: Sorry for the delayed response
>
>
> > On Nov 26, 2024, at 9:29 AM, Ryan Levering <rrlevering@google.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > schema.org usually has the unfortunate goal of having a simpler/less
> valid ontology coincident with a better one.  So in schema.org we can use
> Role to specify time-limited memberships like you encode in this schema
> directly.  But we also allow so#athlete as a time snapshot for membership
> (which is frankly more used).  We also have so#homeTeam and so#awayTeam
> which are again shortcuts for your participation alignments.  But the IPTC
> schema seems like a great model to push in the direction of and I think
> many of the types there could be directly co-typed with schema.org types
> without problems.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:52 PM Paul Kelly <paul@polvo.ca> wrote:
> > Hi Public Schema/Schema.org <http://schema.org/> people, it’s been a
> while since I’ve participated here. I’m Paul Kelly, lead of the IPTC’s
> sports content group.
> >
> > I’m writing to tell you about the IPTC’s ontology for representing
> sports competitions and results in RDF. It’s called IPTC Sport Schema and
> you can check it out here:
> >
> > https://sportschema.org/
> >
> > Here’s a diagram:
> >
> > https://sportschema.org/schema-diagram/
> >
> > The site has samples, a SPARQL endpoint and copious documentation. There
> have been initiatives in the past for representing sports data on the web.
> Any interest still?
> >
> > Apart from structuring complex competitions and athlete histories, we
> incorporated a slew of sports vocabs that arose from the IPTC’s SportsML
> standard:
> >
> > https://cv.iptc.org/newscodes#sportcvs
> >
> > I’d like to hear any thoughts people on this list might have about what
> we’ve done. This thing will evolve and your contributions are welcome and
> appreciated.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Paul Kelly
> >
> > -----
> > Paul Kelly
> > Lead, IPTC Sports Content Working Group
>
>