Re: representing public schools

For the grade levels, if we want to preserve more semantics, we can create
a few new classes (like Schema.org has for days of week)
- one new property gradeOfferred
- one new class called Grade
- one instance per grade level
- a school references the grades offered using the gradeOfferred property
and the grade instances

@prefix rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#> .
@prefix rdfs: <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#> .
@prefix s: <https://schema.org/> .

s:Grade a rdfs:Class ;
rdfs:label "Grade" ;
rdfs:comment "The grade in a school context, e.g. K or First Grade" .

s:Grade_PK a s:Grade ;
rdfs:label "Pre-K" ;
rdfs:comment "Grade Pre-K" .

s:Grade_K a s:Grade ;
rdfs:label "K" ;
rdfs:label "0K" ;
rdfs:label "Kindergarten" ;
rdfs:comment "Grade K" .

s:Grade_1 a s:Grade ;
rdfs:label "First Grade" ;
rdfs:label "01" ;
rdfs:comment "First Grade in a school setting" .

s:Grade_2 a s:Grade ;
rdfs:label "Second Grade" ;
rdfs:label "02" ;
rdfs:comment "Second Grade in a school setting" .


s:gradeOfferred a rdf:Property ;
rdfs:label "gradeOfferred" ;
rdfs:comment "The grade offered by this school" ;
s:contributor <https://schema.org/docs/collab/GoodRelationsTerms> ;
s:domainIncludes s:School ;
s:rangeIncludes s:Grade .

<https://www.schools.nyc.gov/schools/M185>
a s:School ;
s:gradeOfferred s:Grade_PK, s:Grade_1 .



There might be exiting ontologies we could reuse instead of reinventing the
wheel.

Arnaud

On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 11:39 PM Arnaud Sahuguet <arnaud.sahuguet@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Here is a concrete example
> I have added some NEW STUFF at the end
> 1. hasGrade to describe the range of grades offered
> 2. hasSpecialEd to indicate the school supports Special Education
> 3. hasWheelchairAccessibleEntrance for accessibility
>
> Source = https://www.schools.nyc.gov/schools/M185
>
> Proposed encoding =
> @prefix sc: <http://purl.org/science/owl/sciencecommons/> .
> @prefix s: <http://schema.org/> .
> @prefix xsd: <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#> .
>
> # The Locke School of Arts and Engineering
> <https://www.schools.nyc.gov/schools/M185>
>
>   a s:School ;
>
>   s:parentOrganizaton <https://www.schools.nyc.gov/> ;
>   s:sameAs <https://www.lockearts.org/> ;
>   s:sameAs <http://www.twitter.com/LockeSchoolNYC> ;
>   s:sameAs <http://www.instagram.com/LockeSchoolNYC> ;
>   s:sameAs <https://www.facebook.com/LockeSchoolNYC> ;
>
>   s:address [
>     a s:PostalAddress ;
>     s:streetAddress "20 West 112 Street" ;
>     s:addressLocality "Manhattan" ;
>     s:addressRegion "NY" ;
>     s:postalCode "10026"
> ] ;
>
> # Key personnel
>     s:employee [
>         a s:Person ;
>         s:jobTitle "Principal" ;
>         s:name "Jill Sinnott";
>         s:email "jsinnott2@schools.nyc.gov";
> ] ;
>     s:employee [
>         a s:Person ;
>         s:jobTitle "Sexual Harassment Prevention Liaison" ;
>         s:name "Chisa Sealy";
>         s:email "csealy4@schools.nyc.gov";
> ] ;
>
>     s:telephone "212-534-7490" ;
>     s:fax "212-831-8613" ;
>
> # NEW STUFF
>     s:hasGrade "PK,0K,01,02,03,04,05,SE"; # SE (special ed) is not really
> a grade. It is an attribute of the school.
>     s:hasSpecialEd "true"^^xsd:boolean ; # I would create a special
> property for it
>     s:hasWheelchairAccessibleEntrance "false"^^xsd:boolean ;
>
> .
>
> Comments are welcome.
>
> Arnaud
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 2:33 PM Arnaud Sahuguet <arnaud.sahuguet@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I also checked parks, playgrounds, public libraries and they have the
>> "Wheelchair accessible entrance" attribute on Google Maps.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 2:24 PM Arnaud Sahuguet <arnaud.sahuguet@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is the good old chicken-vs-egg problem.
>>> When I worked on https://schema.org/GovernmentService, I got all
>>> excited about getting the schema perfect. I don't think I spent enough time
>>> building some concrete examples for it, e.g. for New York City. And when I
>>> checked the adoption (via Google Crawl) it was abysmally low. We had a few
>>> early adopters in the south part of Latin America.
>>>
>>> Now being on the other side, it feels a bit like using Lego, but with no
>>> instruction manual. Yes, you can build something, but it takes time and it
>>> often does not look polished enough. We also have to convince ourselves and
>>> the people using the schemas that (a) best is the enemy of good and (b)
>>> even a subset of the info properly tagged is better than nothing.
>>>
>>> For accessibility, checking on Google Maps, I found the generic
>>> "accessible" for hotels. I also found "accessible entrance" and "accessible
>>> parking". Could we reuse what they have?
>>> I also found a 700+ page dissertation on the topic (
>>> https://d-scholarship.pitt.edu/33172/7/ETD_Dissertation_Benner-9.1.17.pdf
>>> ).
>>>
>>> It seems that "Wheelchair accessible entrance" is the lowest common
>>> denominator and is non-controversial. Maybe we can start from there. The
>>> school I am using as an example says "non accessible" (they don't have a
>>> ramp; they don't have an elevator). So, flagging it as with s:hasWheelchairAccessibleEntrance
>>> "false"^^xsd:boolean should indicate that a) the entrance is not
>>> wheelchair accessible and (b) the school is not accessible (implied).
>>>
>>> I am surprised this is not being used already. The travel industry
>>> should be a big user of such a feature.
>>>
>>> Arnaud
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 1:46 PM Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Note that at least in UK public schools and private schools are both
>>>> expensive rather than free and state funded!
>>>>
>>>> For wheelchair accessibility there should be extensive notes in GitHub
>>>> or the old wiki but we never finalised a representation - largely because
>>>> nobody stepped up to implement something consuming it. In absence of such
>>>> use cases it is hard to settle on a level of detail. But we should do
>>>> something!
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2024, 18:15 Arnaud Sahuguet, <arnaud.sahuguet@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> After police stations and fire stations, I am looking at *public
>>>>> schools.*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I could not find a property related to *accessibility*, e.g.
>>>>> wheelchair accessible.
>>>>>
>>>>> The school schema and its parents do not contain anything related to
>>>>> *grade* level.
>>>>> Here is a concrete example (my kids's school) where grade is described
>>>>> using an enumeration "PK,0K,01,02,03,04,05,SE". (source=
>>>>> https://www.schools.nyc.gov/schools/M185)
>>>>> The closest is https://schema.org/educationalLevel, but this is not
>>>>> the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the recommended way of capturing this info?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Arnaud
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Arnaud Sahuguet
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Arnaud Sahuguet
>>
>>
>
> --
> Arnaud Sahuguet
>
>

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Arnaud Sahuguet