- From: Álvaro Pichó <alvaro@seolevante.com>
- Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 15:39:06 +0200
- To: Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>
- Cc: "schema.org Mailing List" <public-schemaorg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <71fe9162b32566bf17539829166251b7@seolevante.com>
Thank you for your attention Mr. Brickley, and sorry for the bad translation. Now I re-read: "Tying JSON-LD...", better than _joining_, "ranking factor" better than _calssification factor_. SAAS as https://classyschema.org/ shows the same separeted or untying micro-formats. Best regards, Álvaro Pichó Torres Consultor SEO seolevante.com [1] 619 832 611 [2] [1] NOTA IMPORTANTE: Le informamos que este mensaje está dirigido a las personas indicadas en el encabezamiento y que puede contener información confidencial. Si Ud. lo ha recibido por error le rogamos nos avise inmediatamente y destruya este mensaje. En ningún caso deberá copiar, distribuir o tomar iniciativa alguna en relación con su contenido. En cumplimiento de lo previsto en la Ley Orgánica 15/1999, de 13 de diciembre de Protección de Datos de Carácter Personal, le comunicamos su e-mail junto con los datos que nos facilite y nos haya facilitado, constan en un fichero titularidad de Álvaro Pichó Torres a los efectos de mantener el contacto con Ud. Puede ejercitar sus derechos de acceso, cancelación, rectificación y en su caso, oposición, enviando un escrito al efecto, acompañado de una fotocopia de su D.N.I., bien respondiendo a este correo electrónico, bien a la siguiente dirección: C/Cuenca, nº41- pta. 14. 46008-Valencia. El 10/05/2023 15:22, Dan Brickley escribió: > Thanks for sharing your experiences with the Schema.org community. > Excuse the short reply but on your main observation about JSON-LD and > Microdata, the issue is a known one and relates to the way Google's > tooling currently works (the validator is provided by Google). I will > relay your comments to my colleagues. > > Cheers > > Dan > > On Wed, 10 May 2023, 06:36 Álvaro Pichó, <alvaro@seolevante.com> wrote: > >> Hello dear Mr. Brickley& Schema Team >> >> I am Álvaro Pichó, independent SEO consultant from Valencia (Spain). >> >> First of all, I am a fan of your work from Schema and I am >> professionally very interested in Schema itself and in the semantic >> web. >> >> I am writing to tell you a couple of sensations since I am a >> medium-advanced user of structured data. >> >> Joining JSON-LD and Microdata >> >> From professionals like Daniel K Cheung >> (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielkcheung/) and Ashraf >> (https://schemantra.com/blog/authors/ash/), I have learned that one >> virtue of Structured Data is knowing how to establish relationships >> with each other. >> >> This is wonderful, but it is only possible between microformats >> themselves, i.e. you cannot join Microdata with JSON-LD. >> >> In the case of ecommerce, Microdata is very useful and necessary for >> categories and products, and JSON-LD is very valuable for main >> categories. >> >> With a JSON I am able to do this: >> >> But the JSON-LD conjunction with Microdata in a category, JSON in the >> <head> and microdata over the Magento *.phtml file, even building the >> URIs correctly, do not understand each other: >> >> 1) >> >> 2) From the same Schema validator: >> >> Honestly, I think that for the benefit of the semantic web, they >> should be able to understand each other, now, I don't know how. >> >> CLASSIFICATION >> >> On the other hand, why implementing Structured Data is not a >> classification factor? >> >> I'm sure now you will think "Ah, how smart this guy is, what he wants >> is to benefit from all this", well it's partly true, but let me >> comment a couple of things. >> >> I have watched your talk with Jason Douglas 'Google I/O 2013 - From >> Structured Data to the Knowledge Graph' https://youtu.be/yp8AjMBG87g >> and I have read your paper 'Schema.org Evolution of Structured Data on >> the Web', with R.V. GUHA GOOGLE, DAN BRICKLEY GOOGLE and STEVE MACBETH >> MICROSOFT >> >> On the one hand, you talk about greater or lesser adoption of these >> techniques, and what better stimulus for adoption than an improvement >> in the rankings. >> >> On the other hand, I know that there are technologies like Yoast that >> automate the creation of Structured Data, but like everything in this >> life, creating an elaborate and comprehensive Schema Mark Up should be >> the clear sign of a thorough, artisan and human work, I think it would >> be easy to detect when it has been achieved with a click, to when >> there has been a careful work. >> >> And to this careful work, I refer again when it will be clear that it >> is not the result of an automated artificial intelligence work. >> >> In short, it is a scenario of clear human work. >> >> And here it is pertinent to put into perspective the competition >> between small and large companies. >> >> I believe that an implementation of nested and careful Structured >> Data, is a scenario of advantage of small companies against large >> ones. >> >> I run an ecommerce that among other products, has 40 backpacks and I >> compete against other websites that have 400 and 4000 backpacks, truly >> my website >> (https://validator.schema.org/#url=https%3A%2F%2Fsolohombre.es%2Fmochilas-hombre-online-comprar-1.html) >> is more well maintained than those of the big ones >> (https://validator.schema.org/#url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.es%2Fmochilas-hombre%2Fs%3Fk%3Dmochilas%2Bhombre). >> >> Give us, or let us, to little guys something to compete against the >> big guys. >> >> Yesterday I was watching another video, where the SEO consultant on >> duty, advises that in Type > Article > Text, we put the whole article, >> more than 1000 words! Oh my God! >> >> There's the abusive practices again. >> >> But I think you will know how to evaluate the Structured Data built >> and discriminate that it is an exquisite work of a work to weight. >> >> Nothing more Mr. Brickley, thank you very much for your time and best >> regards. >> >> Álvaro Pichó Torres >> >> Consultor SEO >> >> seolevante.com [1] >> >> 619 832 611 [2] >> >> [1] >> >> NOTA IMPORTANTE: Le informamos que este mensaje está dirigido a las >> personas indicadas en el encabezamiento y que puede contener >> información confidencial. Si Ud. lo ha recibido por error le rogamos >> nos avise inmediatamente y destruya este mensaje. En ningún caso >> deberá copiar, distribuir o tomar iniciativa alguna en relación con su >> contenido. En cumplimiento de lo previsto en la Ley Orgánica 15/1999, >> de 13 de diciembre de Protección de Datos de Carácter Personal, le >> comunicamos su e-mail junto con los datos que nos facilite y nos haya >> facilitado, constan en un fichero titularidad de Álvaro Pichó Torres a >> los efectos de mantener el contacto con Ud. Puede ejercitar sus >> derechos de acceso, cancelación, rectificación y en su caso, >> oposición, enviando un escrito al efecto, acompañado de una fotocopia >> de su D.N.I., bien respondiendo a este correo electrónico, bien a la >> siguiente dirección: C/Cuenca, nº41- pta. 14. 46008-Valencia. Links: ------ [1] https://seolevante.com/ [2] tel:+34619832611
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