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Re: Public Interest legal aid markup

From: Alan LaFrance <stidotorg@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 13:54:47 -0500
Message-ID: <CALdqMaR3hLhPVBH5OHMXZ2JJfrr-igNzwk7BvM6DR=xcAce8EA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Margaret Hagan <mdhagan@stanford.edu>
Cc: public-schemaorg@w3.org
I feel that profitStatus addresses the gap efficiently and can be quickly
implemented.

The ICNPO component was meant to be an ice breaker in discussing a
global-friendly addition for additional context.

In the US we of course can use things like corporate income tax status:
501(c). There’s also an NAICS category for “giving.”

Thanks,
Alan LaFrance

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 1:41 PM Margaret Hagan <mdhagan@stanford.edu> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I like the profitStatus property, because there are many non-profit
> organizations that do not primarily identify as an ‘NGO’ — but still want
> to communicate that they are non-commercial, public-interest, and will
> never charge you money/sell your data.
>
> The ICNPO can be fine, though it’s definitely higher burden to do the
> classification than the profitStatus.
>
> Thanks so much for your thoughts! Best, Margaret
>
>
> On March 24, 2020 at 11:37:03 AM, Alan LaFrance (stidotorg@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> Margaret,
>
> I think this exposes a gap in the existing schema, as you mentioned.
>
> I’d like to advocate for adding an optional property called profitStatus
> to Organization that notates the status of an org as “for profit” or “non
> profit.”
>
> Alternatively, we could use ICNPO classifications as guidance for a more
> granular method. (See link below)
>
> https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/en/catalogue/13-015-X
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Alan LaFrance
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 1:06 PM Margaret Hagan <mdhagan@stanford.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I’m working with various legal aid groups and other ‘public
>> interest/non-profit’ legal groups on marking up their online resources.
>>
>> I am running into a few limitations/areas for help.` If you have any
>> thoughts, edits, reactions — I’d really appreciate it!  Best, Margaret
>>
>>
>> *1) Organization Type:* Should we be tagging a non-profit legal
>> information/services as an ‘NGO’ or as a ‘Legal Service’? The ideal is that
>> we are communicating to the public that the sites are:
>> - public interest and free
>> - offering info + services related to legal problems
>>
>> Ideally there would be another category like ‘Non-profit Legal Service’
>> or ‘Legal Aid’
>>
>> *2) Issue Expertise:* What’s the best way to label the areas of law that
>> a legal aid or free legal info site might help a person with? For example,
>> to let people know they have help with domestic violence; child custody;
>> landlord-tenant problems; migrant worker problems, etc?
>>
>> Right now, we are using ‘knowsAbout’ and then linking to a URL with a
>> taxonomy entry for that legal problem.
>>
>> Has anyone used any other strategy for this?
>>
>>
>> *3) Jurisdiction Coverage:* Ideally we could label the organization and
>> services very precisely with what cities, counties, or states their
>> info/services apply to. For example, some of the housing law pages are only
>> for certain cities, while some family/child custody are only for people in
>> a certain state.
>>
>> We are currently using Administrative Area and listing these different
>> city/county/state units as text entries — but ideally we could be more
>> precise than text. Has anyone used other strategies for communicating the
>> jurisdictions that particular rules or services apply to?
>>
>> --
>>
>> For more detail, here are some of the sample drafts of markup that our
>> groups are working on.
>>
>> {
>>
>>   "@context": "http://www.schema.org",
>>
>>   "@type": "LegalService",
>>
>>   "name": "Idaho Legal Aid Services",
>>
>>   "url": "https://www.idaholegalaid.org/",
>>
>>   "description": "Idaho Legal Aid Services is a nonprofit statewide law
>> firm dedicated to providing equal access to justice for low income people
>> through quality advocacy and education.",
>>
>>   "logo": "
>> https://www.idaholegalaid.org/sites/idaholegalaid.org/files/ilas-logo-100.png
>> ",
>>
>>   "address": {
>>
>>     "@type": "PostalAddress",
>>
>>     "streetAddress": "1447 S. Tyrell Lane
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1447+S.+Tyrell+Lane?entry=gmail&source=g>
>> ",
>>
>>     "addressLocality": "Boise",
>>
>>     "addressRegion": "ID",
>>
>>     "postalCode": 83706
>>
>>   },
>>
>>   "areaServed": [
>>
>>     {
>>
>>       "@type": "AdministrativeArea",
>>
>>       "name": "Idaho"
>>
>>     }
>>
>>   ],
>>
>>   "telephone": "208-746-7541",
>>
>>   "openingHours": [
>>
>>     "Mo 08:30-17:00",
>>
>>     "Tu 08:30-17:00",
>>
>>     "We 08:30-17:00",
>>
>>     "Th 08:30-17:00",
>>
>>     "Fr 08:30-17:00"
>>
>>   ],
>>
>>     "isAccessibleForFree": true,
>>
>>   "knowsAbout": [
>>
>>     "https://taxonomy.legal/term/HO-00-00-00-00",
>>
>>     "https://taxonomy.legal/term/FA-00-00-00-00",
>>
>>     "https://taxonomy.legal/term/IM-13-00-00-00",
>>
>>     "https://taxonomy.legal/term/BE-00-00-00-00",
>>
>>     "https://taxonomy.legal/term/MO-00-00-00-00",
>>
>>     "https://taxonomy.legal/term/NA-00-00-00-00",
>>
>>     “https://taxonomy.legal/term/BE-07-00-00-00”,
>>
>>     “https://taxonomy.legal/term/FA-15-00-00-00”
>>
>>   ],
>>
>> }
>>
>>
>> {
>>
>>   "@context": "http://www.schema.org",
>>
>>   "@type": "LegalService",
>>
>>   "name": "Legal Services of North Florida",
>>
>>   "url": "https://www.lsnf.org/",
>>
>>   "description": "LSNF is a not-for-profit legal services organization
>> serving only low-income individuals and families in sixteen counties across
>> Florida’s central and western panhandle. LSNF’s priority areas are cases
>> involving Family Law, Housing, Public Benefits, Employment, Education, and
>> Health Care issues. It does not help with traffic tickets, car injuries, or
>> defending criminal actions.",
>>
>>   "logo": "
>> https://www.lsnf.org/wp-content/themes/LSNFtheme/assets/images/Logo.png",
>>
>>   "alternateName": "LSNF",
>>
>>   "telephone": "(850) 385-9007",
>>
>>   "address": [
>>
>>     {
>>
>>       "@type": "PostalAddress",
>>
>>       "streetAddress": "2119 Delta Boulevard
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2119+Delta+Boulevard?entry=gmail&source=g>
>> ",
>>
>>       "addressLocality": "Tallahassee",
>>
>>       "addressRegion": "FL",
>>
>>       "postalCode": “32303”
>>
>>     },
>>
>> ]
>>
>> "areaServed": [
>>
>>     {
>>
>>       "@type": "AdministrativeArea",
>>
>>       "name": "[“Bay County, FL”, “Calhoun County, FL”, “Escambia
>> County, FL”, “Franklin County, FL”, “Gadsden County, FL”, “Gulf County,
>> FL”, “Holmes County, FL”, “Jackson County, FL”, “Jefferson County, FL”,
>> “Leon County, FL”, “Liberty County, FL”, “Okaloosa County, FL”, “Santa Rosa
>> County, FL”, “Wakulla County, FL”, “Walton County, FL”, “Washington County,
>> FL”]"
>>
>>     }
>>
>>   ],
>>
>>     "isAccessibleForFree": true,
>>
>>   "openingHours": [
>>
>>     "Mo 09:00-17:00",
>>
>>     "Tu 09:00-17:00",
>>
>>     "We 09:00-17:00",
>>
>>     "Th 09:00-17:00",
>>
>>     "Fr 09:00-17:00"
>>
>>   ],
>>
>>   "contactPoint": [
>>
>>    { "@type": "ContactPoint",
>>
>>     "url": "
>> https://floi.legalserver.org/modules/matter/extern_intake.php?pid=38&h=757e8c
>> ",
>>
>>     "contactType": "Online Intake",
>>
>>     "areaServed": "Florida"
>>
>>   },
>>
>> ]
>>
>>
>>   "availableLanguage": [
>>
>>     {
>>
>>       "@type": "Language",
>>
>>       "name": "English",
>>
>>       "alternateName": "English"
>>
>>     }
>>
>>   ]
>>
>> "serviceLocation": [
>>
>> {
>>
>>     “@type”: “LegalService”
>>
>>     “name” : “Legal Services of North Florida: Pensacola office”,
>>
>>     “telephone” : “(850) 432-8222”
>>
>>       “address”: {
>>
>>   "streetAddress": "118 South Baylen Street
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/118+South+Baylen+Street?entry=gmail&source=g>
>> ",
>>
>>        "addressLocality": "Pensacola",
>>
>>        "addressRegion": "FL",
>>
>>        "postalCode": 32502
>>
>> }
>>
>>     },
>>
>>   {
>>
>>     “@type”: “LegalService”
>>
>>     “name” : “Legal Services of North Florida: Quincy Office”,
>>
>>     “telephone” : “(850) 875-9881”
>>
>>       “address”: {
>>
>>   "streetAddress": "121 North Jackson Street
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/121+North+Jackson+Street?entry=gmail&source=g>
>> ",
>>
>>        "addressLocality": "Quincy",
>>
>>        "addressRegion": "FL",
>>
>>        "postalCode": 32303
>>
>> }
>>
>>     },
>>
>> {
>>
>>     “@type”: “LegalService”
>>
>>     “name” : “Legal Services of North Florida: Ft. Walton Beach”,
>>
>>     “telephone” : “(850) 862-3279”
>>
>>       “address”: {
>>
>>   "streetAddress": "133 Staff Drive, NE
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/133+Staff+Drive,+NE?entry=gmail&source=g>
>> ",
>>
>>        "addressLocality": "Ft. Walton Beach",
>>
>>        "addressRegion": "FL",
>>
>>        "postalCode": 32548
>>
>> }
>>
>>     },
>>
>> {
>>
>>     “@type”: “LegalService”
>>
>>     “name” : “Legal Services of North Florida: Panama City office”,
>>
>>     “telephone” : “(850) 769-3581”
>>
>>       “address”: {
>>
>>   "@type": "PostalAddress",
>>
>>        "streetAddress": "211 East 11th Street
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/211+East+11th+Street?entry=gmail&source=g>
>> ",
>>
>>      "addressLocality": "Panama City",
>>
>>        "addressRegion": "FL",
>>
>>        "postalCode": 32401
>>
>> }
>>
>>     },
>>
>> {
>>
>>     “@type”: “LegalService”
>>
>>     “name” : “Legal Services of North Florida: Tallahassee office”,
>>
>>     “telephone” : “(850) 385-9007”
>>
>>       “address”: {
>>
>>   "@type": "PostalAddress",
>>
>>        "streetAddress": "2119 Delta Blvd
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2119+Delta+Blvd?entry=gmail&source=g>
>> .,
>>
>>      "addressLocality": "Tallahassee",
>>
>>        "addressRegion": "FL",
>>
>>        "postalCode": 32303”
>>
>> }
>>
>>     }
>>
>> ]
>>
>> }
>>
>>
>>
>> {
>>
>>   "@context": "http://www.schema.org",
>>
>>   "@type": "LegalService",
>>
>>   "name": "Law Help NY",
>>
>>   "url": "https://www.lawhelpny.org/",
>>
>> "description": "Access to legal information and free legal help for New
>> Yokers in need of legal assistance.",
>>
>>   "image": "
>> https://www.lawhelpny.org/files/B23B29BF-0DED-F7B9-2149-1DB14E1A7DE5/images/LHNY%203_20.png
>> ",
>>
>>   "logo": "
>> https://www.lawhelpny.org/files/B23B29BF-0DED-F7B9-2149-1DB14E1A7DE5/images/LHNY%203_20.png
>> ",
>>
>>   "isAccessibleForFree": true,
>>
>> "areaServed": [
>>
>>     {
>>
>>       "@type": "AdministrativeArea",
>>
>>       "name": "New York"
>>
>>     }
>>
>>   ],
>>
>>   "knowsAbout": [
>>
>>     "https://taxonomy.legal/term/DI-00-00-00-00",
>>
>>     "https://taxonomy.legal/term/FA-00-00-00-00",
>>
>>     "https://taxonomy.legal/term/CO-00-00-00-00",
>>
>>     "https://taxonomy.legal/term/HE-00-00-00-00",
>>
>>     "https://taxonomy.legal/term/BE-00-00-00-00",
>>
>>     "https://taxonomy.legal/term/HO-00-00-00-00",
>>
>>     "https://taxonomy.legal/term/WO-00-00-00-00",
>>
>>     "https://taxonomy.legal/term/MO-00-00-00-00",
>>
>>     "https://taxonomy.legal/term/ES-00-00-00-00",
>>
>>     "https://taxonomy.legal/term/GO-00-00-00-00",
>>
>>     "https://taxonomy.legal/term/VE-00-00-00-00",
>>
>>     "https://taxonomy.legal/term/RI-00-00-00-00"
>>
>>   ],
>>
>>   "description": "Legal information for New Yorkers who cannot afford an
>> attorney.",
>>
>>   "availableLanguage": {
>>
>>     "@type": "Language",
>>
>>     "name": [
>>
>>       "English",
>>
>>       "Spanish",
>>
>>       "French",
>>
>>       "Korean",
>>
>>       "Russian",
>>
>>       "Polish",
>>
>>       "Vietnamese",
>>
>>       "Haitian; Haitian Creole",
>>
>>       "Arabic",
>>
>>       "Italian",
>>
>>       "Tagalog"
>>
>>     ]
>>
>>   },
>>
>>   "email": "info@nylawhelp.org"
>>
>> }
>>
>
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