- From: Alan LaFrance <stidotorg@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 13:54:47 -0500
- To: Margaret Hagan <mdhagan@stanford.edu>
- Cc: public-schemaorg@w3.org
- Message-ID: <CALdqMaR3hLhPVBH5OHMXZ2JJfrr-igNzwk7BvM6DR=xcAce8EA@mail.gmail.com>
I feel that profitStatus addresses the gap efficiently and can be quickly implemented. The ICNPO component was meant to be an ice breaker in discussing a global-friendly addition for additional context. In the US we of course can use things like corporate income tax status: 501(c). There’s also an NAICS category for “giving.” Thanks, Alan LaFrance On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 1:41 PM Margaret Hagan <mdhagan@stanford.edu> wrote: > Hi! > > I like the profitStatus property, because there are many non-profit > organizations that do not primarily identify as an ‘NGO’ — but still want > to communicate that they are non-commercial, public-interest, and will > never charge you money/sell your data. > > The ICNPO can be fine, though it’s definitely higher burden to do the > classification than the profitStatus. > > Thanks so much for your thoughts! Best, Margaret > > > On March 24, 2020 at 11:37:03 AM, Alan LaFrance (stidotorg@gmail.com) > wrote: > > Margaret, > > I think this exposes a gap in the existing schema, as you mentioned. > > I’d like to advocate for adding an optional property called profitStatus > to Organization that notates the status of an org as “for profit” or “non > profit.” > > Alternatively, we could use ICNPO classifications as guidance for a more > granular method. (See link below) > > https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/en/catalogue/13-015-X > > Thoughts? > > Thanks, > Alan LaFrance > > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 1:06 PM Margaret Hagan <mdhagan@stanford.edu> > wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> I’m working with various legal aid groups and other ‘public >> interest/non-profit’ legal groups on marking up their online resources. >> >> I am running into a few limitations/areas for help.` If you have any >> thoughts, edits, reactions — I’d really appreciate it! Best, Margaret >> >> >> *1) Organization Type:* Should we be tagging a non-profit legal >> information/services as an ‘NGO’ or as a ‘Legal Service’? The ideal is that >> we are communicating to the public that the sites are: >> - public interest and free >> - offering info + services related to legal problems >> >> Ideally there would be another category like ‘Non-profit Legal Service’ >> or ‘Legal Aid’ >> >> *2) Issue Expertise:* What’s the best way to label the areas of law that >> a legal aid or free legal info site might help a person with? For example, >> to let people know they have help with domestic violence; child custody; >> landlord-tenant problems; migrant worker problems, etc? >> >> Right now, we are using ‘knowsAbout’ and then linking to a URL with a >> taxonomy entry for that legal problem. >> >> Has anyone used any other strategy for this? >> >> >> *3) Jurisdiction Coverage:* Ideally we could label the organization and >> services very precisely with what cities, counties, or states their >> info/services apply to. For example, some of the housing law pages are only >> for certain cities, while some family/child custody are only for people in >> a certain state. >> >> We are currently using Administrative Area and listing these different >> city/county/state units as text entries — but ideally we could be more >> precise than text. Has anyone used other strategies for communicating the >> jurisdictions that particular rules or services apply to? >> >> -- >> >> For more detail, here are some of the sample drafts of markup that our >> groups are working on. >> >> { >> >> "@context": "http://www.schema.org", >> >> "@type": "LegalService", >> >> "name": "Idaho Legal Aid Services", >> >> "url": "https://www.idaholegalaid.org/", >> >> "description": "Idaho Legal Aid Services is a nonprofit statewide law >> firm dedicated to providing equal access to justice for low income people >> through quality advocacy and education.", >> >> "logo": " >> https://www.idaholegalaid.org/sites/idaholegalaid.org/files/ilas-logo-100.png >> ", >> >> "address": { >> >> "@type": "PostalAddress", >> >> "streetAddress": "1447 S. Tyrell Lane >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1447+S.+Tyrell+Lane?entry=gmail&source=g> >> ", >> >> "addressLocality": "Boise", >> >> "addressRegion": "ID", >> >> "postalCode": 83706 >> >> }, >> >> "areaServed": [ >> >> { >> >> "@type": "AdministrativeArea", >> >> "name": "Idaho" >> >> } >> >> ], >> >> "telephone": "208-746-7541", >> >> "openingHours": [ >> >> "Mo 08:30-17:00", >> >> "Tu 08:30-17:00", >> >> "We 08:30-17:00", >> >> "Th 08:30-17:00", >> >> "Fr 08:30-17:00" >> >> ], >> >> "isAccessibleForFree": true, >> >> "knowsAbout": [ >> >> "https://taxonomy.legal/term/HO-00-00-00-00", >> >> "https://taxonomy.legal/term/FA-00-00-00-00", >> >> "https://taxonomy.legal/term/IM-13-00-00-00", >> >> "https://taxonomy.legal/term/BE-00-00-00-00", >> >> "https://taxonomy.legal/term/MO-00-00-00-00", >> >> "https://taxonomy.legal/term/NA-00-00-00-00", >> >> “https://taxonomy.legal/term/BE-07-00-00-00”, >> >> “https://taxonomy.legal/term/FA-15-00-00-00” >> >> ], >> >> } >> >> >> { >> >> "@context": "http://www.schema.org", >> >> "@type": "LegalService", >> >> "name": "Legal Services of North Florida", >> >> "url": "https://www.lsnf.org/", >> >> "description": "LSNF is a not-for-profit legal services organization >> serving only low-income individuals and families in sixteen counties across >> Florida’s central and western panhandle. LSNF’s priority areas are cases >> involving Family Law, Housing, Public Benefits, Employment, Education, and >> Health Care issues. It does not help with traffic tickets, car injuries, or >> defending criminal actions.", >> >> "logo": " >> https://www.lsnf.org/wp-content/themes/LSNFtheme/assets/images/Logo.png", >> >> "alternateName": "LSNF", >> >> "telephone": "(850) 385-9007", >> >> "address": [ >> >> { >> >> "@type": "PostalAddress", >> >> "streetAddress": "2119 Delta Boulevard >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2119+Delta+Boulevard?entry=gmail&source=g> >> ", >> >> "addressLocality": "Tallahassee", >> >> "addressRegion": "FL", >> >> "postalCode": “32303” >> >> }, >> >> ] >> >> "areaServed": [ >> >> { >> >> "@type": "AdministrativeArea", >> >> "name": "[“Bay County, FL”, “Calhoun County, FL”, “Escambia >> County, FL”, “Franklin County, FL”, “Gadsden County, FL”, “Gulf County, >> FL”, “Holmes County, FL”, “Jackson County, FL”, “Jefferson County, FL”, >> “Leon County, FL”, “Liberty County, FL”, “Okaloosa County, FL”, “Santa Rosa >> County, FL”, “Wakulla County, FL”, “Walton County, FL”, “Washington County, >> FL”]" >> >> } >> >> ], >> >> "isAccessibleForFree": true, >> >> "openingHours": [ >> >> "Mo 09:00-17:00", >> >> "Tu 09:00-17:00", >> >> "We 09:00-17:00", >> >> "Th 09:00-17:00", >> >> "Fr 09:00-17:00" >> >> ], >> >> "contactPoint": [ >> >> { "@type": "ContactPoint", >> >> "url": " >> https://floi.legalserver.org/modules/matter/extern_intake.php?pid=38&h=757e8c >> ", >> >> "contactType": "Online Intake", >> >> "areaServed": "Florida" >> >> }, >> >> ] >> >> >> "availableLanguage": [ >> >> { >> >> "@type": "Language", >> >> "name": "English", >> >> "alternateName": "English" >> >> } >> >> ] >> >> "serviceLocation": [ >> >> { >> >> “@type”: “LegalService” >> >> “name” : “Legal Services of North Florida: Pensacola office”, >> >> “telephone” : “(850) 432-8222” >> >> “address”: { >> >> "streetAddress": "118 South Baylen Street >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/118+South+Baylen+Street?entry=gmail&source=g> >> ", >> >> "addressLocality": "Pensacola", >> >> "addressRegion": "FL", >> >> "postalCode": 32502 >> >> } >> >> }, >> >> { >> >> “@type”: “LegalService” >> >> “name” : “Legal Services of North Florida: Quincy Office”, >> >> “telephone” : “(850) 875-9881” >> >> “address”: { >> >> "streetAddress": "121 North Jackson Street >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/121+North+Jackson+Street?entry=gmail&source=g> >> ", >> >> "addressLocality": "Quincy", >> >> "addressRegion": "FL", >> >> "postalCode": 32303 >> >> } >> >> }, >> >> { >> >> “@type”: “LegalService” >> >> “name” : “Legal Services of North Florida: Ft. Walton Beach”, >> >> “telephone” : “(850) 862-3279” >> >> “address”: { >> >> "streetAddress": "133 Staff Drive, NE >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/133+Staff+Drive,+NE?entry=gmail&source=g> >> ", >> >> "addressLocality": "Ft. Walton Beach", >> >> "addressRegion": "FL", >> >> "postalCode": 32548 >> >> } >> >> }, >> >> { >> >> “@type”: “LegalService” >> >> “name” : “Legal Services of North Florida: Panama City office”, >> >> “telephone” : “(850) 769-3581” >> >> “address”: { >> >> "@type": "PostalAddress", >> >> "streetAddress": "211 East 11th Street >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/211+East+11th+Street?entry=gmail&source=g> >> ", >> >> "addressLocality": "Panama City", >> >> "addressRegion": "FL", >> >> "postalCode": 32401 >> >> } >> >> }, >> >> { >> >> “@type”: “LegalService” >> >> “name” : “Legal Services of North Florida: Tallahassee office”, >> >> “telephone” : “(850) 385-9007” >> >> “address”: { >> >> "@type": "PostalAddress", >> >> "streetAddress": "2119 Delta Blvd >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2119+Delta+Blvd?entry=gmail&source=g> >> ., >> >> "addressLocality": "Tallahassee", >> >> "addressRegion": "FL", >> >> "postalCode": 32303” >> >> } >> >> } >> >> ] >> >> } >> >> >> >> { >> >> "@context": "http://www.schema.org", >> >> "@type": "LegalService", >> >> "name": "Law Help NY", >> >> "url": "https://www.lawhelpny.org/", >> >> "description": "Access to legal information and free legal help for New >> Yokers in need of legal assistance.", >> >> "image": " >> https://www.lawhelpny.org/files/B23B29BF-0DED-F7B9-2149-1DB14E1A7DE5/images/LHNY%203_20.png >> ", >> >> "logo": " >> https://www.lawhelpny.org/files/B23B29BF-0DED-F7B9-2149-1DB14E1A7DE5/images/LHNY%203_20.png >> ", >> >> "isAccessibleForFree": true, >> >> "areaServed": [ >> >> { >> >> "@type": "AdministrativeArea", >> >> "name": "New York" >> >> } >> >> ], >> >> "knowsAbout": [ >> >> "https://taxonomy.legal/term/DI-00-00-00-00", >> >> "https://taxonomy.legal/term/FA-00-00-00-00", >> >> "https://taxonomy.legal/term/CO-00-00-00-00", >> >> "https://taxonomy.legal/term/HE-00-00-00-00", >> >> "https://taxonomy.legal/term/BE-00-00-00-00", >> >> "https://taxonomy.legal/term/HO-00-00-00-00", >> >> "https://taxonomy.legal/term/WO-00-00-00-00", >> >> "https://taxonomy.legal/term/MO-00-00-00-00", >> >> "https://taxonomy.legal/term/ES-00-00-00-00", >> >> "https://taxonomy.legal/term/GO-00-00-00-00", >> >> "https://taxonomy.legal/term/VE-00-00-00-00", >> >> "https://taxonomy.legal/term/RI-00-00-00-00" >> >> ], >> >> "description": "Legal information for New Yorkers who cannot afford an >> attorney.", >> >> "availableLanguage": { >> >> "@type": "Language", >> >> "name": [ >> >> "English", >> >> "Spanish", >> >> "French", >> >> "Korean", >> >> "Russian", >> >> "Polish", >> >> "Vietnamese", >> >> "Haitian; Haitian Creole", >> >> "Arabic", >> >> "Italian", >> >> "Tagalog" >> >> ] >> >> }, >> >> "email": "info@nylawhelp.org" >> >> } >> >
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