Re: How to express a Person's height

I understand why neither an array of values (eg, first item in the array
covers feet, second item inches) or an 'ItemList' would do the job,
however, since I've been missing on this mailing list for some time now
(personal reasons) I was wondering whether by now there was something like
an 'and' or 'plus' operator/property so that one can express: 5 feet + 7
inches.

Now I also understand why converting a value lik 5'7" to a single
measurement (like inches) would be the way to go for many here but
unfortunately this isn't feasible for every publisher, especially ones that
don't do a lot of inhouse development (aka, people/organizations with small
budgets). And thus was hoping the community had maybe come up with
something already like the 'and' or 'plus' operator/property I mentioned
above.

But alas, it looks like I'll be manually converting a few hundred height
ranges to a single measurement value after all. Thanks for weighing in
nonetheless though.

Op di 18 jun. 2019 om 09:10 schreef Elias Kaerle <elias.kaerle@sti2.at>:

> Hi Jarno, all,
>
> the range of the height property is Distance or QuantitativeValue which
> means that you can also add an array of Distances or QuantitativeValues
> - for example to express the same value in different units (see example
> below). What imho does not work is to understand the elements of the
> array as terms of a sum. This behaviour is not in the implicit semantics
> of the array and would require explicit knowledge about it.
>
> Example: height in feet and centimeters
>
> {
> "@context": "http://schema.org",
> "@type": "Person",
> "name": "Jarno",
> "height": [
>   {"@type": "QuantitativeValue",
>   "value": "5.7",
>   "unitCode": "FOT"},
>   {"@type": "QuantitativeValue",
>   "value": "181",
>   "unitCode": "CM"}
> ]
> }
>
> Cheers, E.
>
> Am 18.06.2019 um 07:59 schrieb Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton):
> > The structured representation of a quantity (e.g. ft/in, DD-MM-YYYY) is
> important for human users/display, but a simple scaled representation
> (inches, days, seconds) is better for transport/loading. It would normally
> be recommended to convert to the structured representation only when
> building a UI.
> >
> > From: Michael Andrews [mailto:nextcontent01@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 June, 2019 15:35
> > To: Jarno van Driel <jarnovandriel@gmail.com>
> > Cc: schema.org Mailing List <public-schemaorg@w3.org>
> > Subject: Re: How to express a Person's height
> >
> > Very good question - how does one represent complex values for existing
> properties that seem to expect a single value?  Another case would be for a
> MonetaryAmount that needs to indicate two values, for example, in
> Mauritania where each ouguiya constitutes five khoums (meaning "one
> fifth"). The Malagasy ariary, whose division units is also not based on a
> power of ten, in addition to various historical currencies including the
> British pound before decimalization.
> >
> > This is what I tried, without successful validation.  Perhaps I am
> missing a trick.
> >
> > First, I tried an itemList for break out feet and inches:
> >
> > {
> > "@context": "http://schema.org",
> > "@type": "Person",
> > "name": "Jarno",
> > "height": {
> > "@type": "ItemList",
> > "itemListElement": [
> > {"@type": "QuantitativeValue",
> > "value": "5",
> > "unitCode": "FOT"},
> > {"@type": "QuantitativeValue",
> > "value": "7",
> > "unitCode": "INH"}
> > ]
> > }
> > }
> >
> > Next I tried using the PropertyValue
> >
> > {
> > "@context": "http://schema.org",
> > "@type": "Person",
> > "name": "Jarno",
> > "height": [
> > {"@type": "PropertyValue",
> > "value": "5",
> > "unitCode": "FOT"},
> > {"@type": "PropertyValue",
> > "value": "7",
> > "unitCode": "INH"}
> > ]
> > }
> > }
> > In both cases, got a message that height didn't expect the itemList or
> PropertyValue.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 5:10 AM Jarno van Driel <jarnovandriel@gmail.com
> <mailto:jarnovandriel@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > As a Dutch native (metric centric) I have run into something that has me
> clueless, namely how to express a Person's height using US measurement
> values like: 5'7"
> >
> > Can anybody please tell me if and how I should use QuantitativeValue for
> this without converting the value to, for example, centimeters or just
> inches?
> >
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