Re: Historical events

On Tue, 29 May 2018 at 05:48, chaals is Charles McCathie Nevile <
chaals@yandex.ru> wrote:

> This is true. And that isn't a concern limited to schema.org :(
>
> (As an historian, I am often frsutrated by this view of "what the web is
> for", and its impact on what we can usefully do :( ).
>

There used to be a note from Library of Congress on these kinds of issues,
http://www.loc.gov/standards/datetime/pre-submission.html but I see it was
updated last year to say:

*This note added August 18, 2017* - ammended January 16, 2018

*This draft specification is superceded; EDTF functionality has been
integrated into a draft revision of ISO 8601 to be published in 2018.*

The revision of ISO 8601 consists of two parts. Part 2 is Extensions, one
of which is EDTF. (The full functionality of this draft specification is
retained, however several syntactic changes were necessary, to satisfy
international requirements.)

Draft International Standard DIS ISO 8601-2018 has successfully completed
DIS ballot and is now in final editing stage .



Hopefully this includes open-ended date ranges...

Dan



>
> 29.05.2018, 14:29, "Muri, Allison" <allison.muri@usask.ca>:
>
> Thank you. I know about https://schema.org/Date, which I use for actual
> dates. I was wondering specifically about events, and tried marking
> historical events as events but that generated errors in the validator
> because I didn’t have a time and location marked up. Event seems intended
> for commercial events held in venues that one can buy tickets for. It
> doesn’t seem to really fit for something that happened sometime in the late
> Bronze Age—or  the Plague in London 1665-1666. It would be nice to be
> able to specify that information because then I could select all historical
> events in any particular text.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 29, 2018, at 5:09 AM, chaals is Charles McCathie Nevile <
> chaals@yandex.ru> wrote:
>
> You can use https://schema.org/Date for various properties that are
> dates, and currently it says it is "an ISO 8601 date". Which, given the
> proposed update to that standard, **might** mean you can use an uncertain
> year range. (I don't have a copy of the document, so I am going on the
> Library of Congress syntax which I think got modified...)
>
> e.g. [-1400?~..-1200?~]/[-1400?~..-1200?~]
>
> In HTML you could also use a time element to provide the named period "The
> Trojan War".
>
>
> It is a repeated question because the Web platform generally does not have
> a very useful answer :(
>
> cheers
>
> Chaals
>
> 25.05.2018, 18:10, "Muri, Allison" <allison.muri@usask.ca>:
>
> Hello,
>
> I’ve been looking around for some way to markup historical events, for
> example “the Trojan War.” It seems there were initiatives around 2012 or so
> (http://historical-data.org; http://historical-data-schema.blogspot.ca/)
> that seem to have stalled. I’m new to this group, so apologies if I’m
> asking something that is repetitive.
>
> All the best,
> Allison
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