Re: Educational and Occupational Credentials in schema.org

Thanks Dan, that's very kind.

I am getting financial support from the Credential Engine which means 
that I have time to chair the group and put time into the work 
generally.  Very happy for other people to contribute too, of course. 
The plan is to follow the same approach as we did for Courses, so I'm 
pleased you liked that :)

Phil



On 27/10/17 16:54, Dan Brickley wrote:
> On 27 October 2017 at 17:42, Vicki Tardif <vtardif@google.com 
> <mailto:vtardif@google.com>> wrote:
>
>     I agree a group would be useful. Do you have a time frame for
>     putting this together?
>
>
> +1 this topic has been bubbling under for years, it feels like the 
> right time to address it, tying together the edu and jobs strands of 
> schema.org <http://schema.org> vocabulary.
>
> I'd be very supportive of a W3C CG on this. Are you offering to chair 
> again, Phil? :) The Course schema CG set a great precedent...
>
> Dan
>
>
>     - Vicki
>
>     On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM, Phil Barker
>     <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk <mailto:phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>         Hello all, one important aspect of education that is not
>         represented well in schema.org <http://schema.org> is
>         educational and occupational credentials, i.e. diplomas,
>         academic degrees, certifications, etc [Terms
>         <http://connectingcredentials.org/common-language-work-group-glossary/>].
>         These act as an important link between outcomes of educational
>         courses, people, and occupations / job roles. I have raised an
>         issue on github with the aim of addressing this gap in
>         schema.org <http://schema.org> [issue#1779
>         <https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/1779>]
>
>         There has been a fair amount of work outside of schema.org
>         <http://schema.org> on describing these, notably by the
>         CredentialEngine.org <http://credentialengine.org/> [CTDL
>         <http://credreg.net/ctdl/schema>], ConnectingCredentials.org
>         <http://connectingcredentials.org/> and the Open Badges
>         [BadgeAlliance <https://www.badgealliance.org/>]. There is
>         also work ongoing about how to deal with wider Verifiable
>         Claims [VCWG <https://www.w3.org/2017/vc/WG/>] such as the
>         claim by and individual to have an academic degree. Also,
>         there are many frameworks which describe credentials in terms
>         of the level and extent of the knowledge and competencies they
>         accredit.
>
>         What that work has made clear is that there is some complexity
>         in describing educational and occupational credentials. While
>         I don't expect doing so in schema.org <http://schema.org>
>         would require more than a few additional terms, the
>         relationship between these terms and things like verifiable
>         claims, competencies, course objectives etc, needs to be
>         clear. I suspect we will need a group such as a W3C Community
>         Group to sort these out.
>
>         I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on this...
>
>         Regards, Phil.
>
>
>         [issue#1779]
>         https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/1779
>         <https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/1779>
>
>         [Terms]
>         http://connectingcredentials.org/common-language-work-group-glossary/
>         <http://connectingcredentials.org/common-language-work-group-glossary/>
>
>         [CTDL] http://credreg.net/ctdl/schema
>
>         [BadgeAlliance] https://www.badgealliance.org/
>             see also
>         https://www.imsglobal.org/sites/default/files/Badges/OBv2p0/index.html
>         <https://www.imsglobal.org/sites/default/files/Badges/OBv2p0/index.html>
>
>         [VCWG] https://www.w3.org/2017/vc/WG/
>
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