- From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 04:13:18 +0000
- To: Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com>
- Cc: Marc Twagirumukiza <twamarc@gmail.com>, "schema.org Mailing List" <public-schemaorg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAM1Sok3vHpHzZeLco_D2OmMr1ZB=Y8Lac174dXvCCeWj5Ra=fQ@mail.gmail.com>
so, https://www.google.com.au/search?q=diet+food+drinks&tbm=shop Results show the top food results relating to health often relates to pet-care. https://www.google.com.au/search?q=diet+meal&tbm=shop isnt much better. https://www.google.com.au/search?tbm=shop&q=dietary+supplements shows mostly pills (note the use of the term 'dietary supplements') https://www.google.com.au/search?tbm=shop&q=diet+lifestyle yields books https://www.google.com.au/search?q=diet+lifestyle&tbm=isch yields a bunch of images saying "not a diet, its a lifestyle" and i haven't seen a diet cola bottle yet. On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 at 11:17 Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com> wrote: > Tim, > > No one is trying to change the definition that we currently have in > Schema.org > > In the world there are generally 2 generally used definitions of Diet. > > 1. That typically spoken about by a Biologist. (biological needs of a > lifeform) > > 2. That typically spoken about by a Nutritionist. (Lifestyle or Restricted > or Health goal oriented) > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2138622 > > Schema.org has # 2 (well, mostly aligned with # 2) > > The namespace is health-lifesci.schema.org Wikidata.org has # 1 (currently, but were the referenced Wikipedia article > meaders back and forth between # 1 and # 2...but no matter, the Wikidata > topic is firmly in the realm of # 1 with its current description) > > The two classes are not equivalent but where Dan and others are saying #2 > could be thought of as a subclass of #1. > IMHO the use of 'diet' in search has an array of semantics. I responded due to the implications the use of a term such as 'diet' may relate to medical conditions (ie: in food-ingredients and menu related lists) so people can buy a food that is compatible with those intending to consume it. Research shows; the term 'diet' is also used for selling pet-food, protein shakes, books, diabetes information sessions, etc. The current wikidata term (which doesn't really fit) speaks more of (1) as well pointed out. nutrician seems to be a better fit for the current usage of 'diet' however the schema hierarchy of defining the health-usage of the term 'diet' under 'lifestyleModification' and thereafter is defined as a subclass of http://health-lifesci.schema.org/LifestyleModification that has a description of "A process of care involving exercise, changes to diet, fitness routines, and other lifestyle changes aimed at improving a health condition." which as a class appears to relate to http://health-lifesci.schema.org/MedicalEntity - which is a term 'loosely coupled' with other Agents such as 'fitness instructor' of 'chef', who with the best of intentions - may be an expert of an element. > > I'm OK with that and now just need to get Wikidata 'external subclass' > figured out. > I've posited the question to them on their mailing list and awaiting a > response. > > I think dan also noted not to worry to much about it, and i understand your trying to map wikidata. So, perhaps simply - duly noted for now? Diet has an array of very important medical uses that relate specifically to search. Diet can also be used when searching for dog-food. Search currently appears to benefit from the use of the term diet for dog-food, protein powders, and books. > Thad > +ThadGuidry <https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry> > > Tim.H. ;)
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