Re: publisher field for Blogposts and websites

>From a Schema.org vocabulary point of view no properties are deemed to be
required.

In the case of the Google SDTT complaining about missing fields it is
advising you on *their* requirements for displaying information about
organisations (e.g.. asking for a logo) etc. Questions regarding the needs
should be addressed to their developer mailing lists.

This list is inly for discussions regarding the vocabulary itself.

In the particular circumstance you describe, I would probably not have
applied a publisher to individual BlogPostings for which an author would
suffice.  However I would have associated each post as being ‘partOf’ a
Blog which optionally would have a ‘publisher’ reference.

Broadening out the question of the possibility of a publisher being a
Person or an Organization, to any CreativeWork, that does in this age of
self-publishing have something n its favour.

~Richard.



Richard Wallis
Founder, Data Liberate
http://dataliberate.com
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On 7 June 2016 at 11:44, Elias Kaerle <elias.kaerle@sti2.at> wrote:

> Hi Gerald,
>
> I agree. Another solution could be to simply accept schema:Person and
> schema:Organization as publisher.
>
> Maybe one of the people maintaining schema.org can comment on that issue!?
>
> Best, Elias
>
>
> On 07.06.2016 10:59, Bäck, Gerald wrote:
> > Hi Elias,
> >
> > the interesting thing is, if you put a logo field into the person entity,
> > google validator claims that a logo field is not valid within the person
> > entity:) The conclusion is that persons cannot be publishers, which is
> > simply wrong.
> >
> > My proposal is to get rid of the publisher entity as a requirement,
> because
> > blogposts and websites still need an author which should be enough for
> > private run blogs.
> >
> > best wishes, Gerald
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Elias Kaerle <elias.kaerle@sti2.at>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Gerald,
> >>
> >> this is indeed a strange behaviour. I would blame it on the way Google's
> >> structured data testing tool works: it does, as far as i know, not
> >> necessarily validate/verify annotations strictly the way schema.org
> >> defines them, but more in a way they need the annotations for feeding
> >> their Rich Snippets and Rich Cards.
> >>
> >> So I would assume Google doesn't care about having a schema:Person as a
> >> publisher, but requires a logo (or some kind of picture) to process a
> >> beautiful Rich Snippet/Rich Card out of it.
> >>
> >> Best, Elias
> >>
> >> On 07.06.2016 08:36, Bäck, Gerald wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I am currently doing my first steps with JSON-LD and try it on my
> private
> >>> blog. As far as I understand Blogposts do require a publisher field,
> >> which
> >>> can only be an organisation. But I think it should be possible for
> >> persons
> >>> to be publishers too, but I also would like to question, that blogposts
> >> or
> >>> even Websites do need a publisher field at all.
> >>>
> >>> I tested my blog with Google's Structured Data Testing Tool.
> >> Interestingly
> >>> enough the tool did not complain about the publisher being a Person,
> but
> >>> that the publisher entitiy had no logo, which on the other hand is not
> >>> allowed as a field for a person.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://search.google.com/structured-data/testing-tool#url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.baeck.at%2Fblog%2F2016%2F05%2F30%2FWahlmanipulationen%2F
> >>>
> >>> I also tested the root of my blog, which is defined as website, also
> with
> >>> myself as a publisher person. This time the tool was fine with it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://search.google.com/structured-data/testing-tool#url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.baeck.at%2F
> >>>
> >>> thx, Gerald
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----
> >>> DI Gerald Bäck | fb <https://facebook.com/geraldbaeck> | blog
> >>> <http://www.baeck.at/> | devblog <http://dev.baeck.at> | fitblog
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> >>>
> >>
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> Elias Kärle, MSc
> Semantic Technology Institute
> University of Innsbruck
>
> ICT - Technologie Park Innsbruck
> 2nd Floor, Room 3S02
> Technikerstrasse, 21a
> 6020 Innsbruck
> Austria
>
> Tel.: (+43) 512 507 53738
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>
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