Re: Third sector services extension?

A convo[1] has also been going on about RWW / SoLiD [2] which has
interactions with other broader issues faced by CG/IG/WG processes,
involved with Linked-Data related science / standards development.

The fact we don't have ontology support for finding a toilet really
highlights an array of issues (ie: circa 18th feb [3]) that are both of
interest to those involved [4] (ie: GLAM), and are within the domain of
what 'local government' could be supported in delivering, in a manner that
supports mobile devices and related search capabilities; but we've
obviously not been able to bring the threads together yet...

Webizen was a w3 project [5] that changed it's name, and whilst i've got
the slack-group URL webizen.slack.com and the LinkedData team have
webizen.org [6] - as the name for a CG is available - i'm thinking about
how to format a charter [8] and in-turn see if we can get the buy-in we
need and/or whether i'm making things too complicated...

The other 'crazy' idea i've got is about producing a TV series about A.I.
 and whether an opportunity exists to interweave some of these community
works as a means to tell stories that can talk in terms of fiction, issues
that people may otherwise have difficulty discussing with the general
public or finding means in which others, understand to some-degree what so
few geeks are talking about, and why they care...  but that's not
necessarily associated to a CG.  although, i do think it's a very
interesting idea to consider it.  such a rich environment that can be
transformed as to communicate the opportunity for humanity to participate
in forging, a wired world, (web) we want...

Tim. Holborn.

[1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rww/2016Aug/
[2] http://solid.mit.edu/
[3] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-credentials/2016Feb/
[4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-6mhdjE1XE
[5] https://www.w3.org/wiki/Webizen
[6] http://webizen.org/
[7] https://www.w3.org/community/webizen
[8] https://github.com/WebCivics/cg-charter

On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 at 18:43 Jen Williams <jen@networkedplanet.com> wrote:

> Tricia via Dan B also just pointed out this W3C community group
> https://www.w3.org/community/humanservices but I don't think it's shown
> up on the public message thread
>
> Whilst my original vision was to also include a way of describing
> non-human services (e.g. environmental etc) I'm definitely going to pop my
> head in over there and see what's happening :-)
>
> On 24 August 2016 at 09:25, Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> yup.  I've got a slack group also but it's been poorly supported for a
>> while...  (i've been busy...)
>>
>> Send me an invite ;)
>>
>> I've cc'd my other relevant emails.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tim.H.
>>
>> On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 at 18:22 Jen Williams <jen@networkedplanet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tim
>>> Happy to set up a skype at some point in the near future. Enthusiastic
>>> people always welcome! For now would you like to join our Slack team?
>>> http://nfpschema.slack.com
>>>
>>> We're at the very early stages and it would be great to have you on
>>> board :-)
>>>
>>> On 24 August 2016 at 09:18, Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jen,
>>>>
>>>> very interested in the field also. I'm based in Australia, which often
>>>> leads timezone difficulties with W3C activities; however, i have a few
>>>> ideas around the development of a new CG and would be v.interested in
>>>> chatting about it.
>>>>
>>>> Timothy Holborn
>>>> http://twitter.com/webcivics
>>>> skype: sailing_digital
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 at 18:14 Jen Williams <jen@networkedplanet.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There's not a connection with Open 311 (currently!), but it's great to
>>>>> hear about these other efforts to address similar or overlapping issues (
>>>>> http://lists.open311.org/groups/discuss/messages/topic/5YKT3xGqXs6J3nItzYLnzZ)
>>>>> so that we can attempt to avoid reinventing the wheel and put energies
>>>>> where they are best used.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will do further research and agree that a W3C community group would
>>>>> be the best way to coordinate efforts, if others here believe it to be
>>>>> worthwhile of deeper discussion (currently we've just started a Slack
>>>>> team). The next IRL meeting about the NFP taxonomy we are planning will be
>>>>> at ODCamp UK (November, Cardiff) should anyone like to come and chat in
>>>>> person about it all, where we hope to have disseminate the other efforts
>>>>> out there and come up with an Almightly Plan Of Action ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Really appreciate everyone's input, thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Jen
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23 August 2016 at 17:38, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22 August 2016 at 13:24, Jen Williams <jen@networkedplanet.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > Hi schema.org community,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Recently at Barcamp Nonprofits (http://barcampnonprofits.com/) we
>>>>>> had a
>>>>>> > session on making services discoverable, which had grown out of
>>>>>> previous
>>>>>> > discussions from the unconference scene in the UK (Open Data Camp
>>>>>> and VCSS
>>>>>> > Camp). Obviously schema.org came up as part of that discussion.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > What we'd like to know is whether anyone is spearheading the
>>>>>> creation of a
>>>>>> > schema.org extension for describing the services provided by third
>>>>>> > (voluntary) sector organisations. If no one is, what's the best way
>>>>>> to get
>>>>>> > one started?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > It sounds like this might overlap with some of the work done by the
>>>>>> Open
>>>>>> > Referral project over in the US (the Open Eligibility project
>>>>>> certainly is a
>>>>>> > great taxonomy to use as a starting point) and our first step of
>>>>>> course is
>>>>>> > to make sure that work isn't being duplicated while at the same time
>>>>>> > providing terms and descriptions for NFP services that go beyond
>>>>>> the human
>>>>>> > services focused on in the Open Referral project (e.g.
>>>>>> environmental and so
>>>>>> > on).
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Can anyone give more info on whether this has been or is being
>>>>>> looked into
>>>>>> > by schema.org? If so, what's the history and progress? We'd like
>>>>>> to lend our
>>>>>> > time and support to extending schema.org coverage of the voluntary
>>>>>> sector.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds like everyone's said almost everything I could think to say on
>>>>>> this :) Seems like a great topic for deeper attention. It might be the
>>>>>> right sized topic for a W3C community group....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One thought - is there any connection with Open 311?
>>>>>> https://www.mysociety.org/2013/01/17/open311-explained/
>>>>>> http://www.open311.org/2015/06/highlights-from-the-open311-ecosystem/
>>>>>> etc?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Many thanks,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Jen
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Jen Williams
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Networked Planet Ltd
>>>>>> > http://www.networkedplanet.com
>>>>>> > http://www.twitter.com/nwplanet
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Jen Williams*
>>>>> *Networked Planet Ltd*
>>>>> http://www.networkedplanet.com
>>>>> http://www.twitter.com/nwplanet
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> *Jen Williams*
>>> *Networked Planet Ltd*
>>> http://www.networkedplanet.com
>>> http://www.twitter.com/nwplanet
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
>
> *Jen Williams*
> *Networked Planet Ltd*
> http://www.networkedplanet.com
> http://www.twitter.com/nwplanet
>