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Re: schema.org for educational courses

From: Phil Barker <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 14:00:22 +0000
To: "schema.org Mailing List" <public-schemaorg@w3.org>
Cc: lrmi@googlegroups.com, DC-EDUCATION@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Message-ID: <56698576.3040904@hw.ac.uk>
Well, that was quick.
> With your support, the Schema Course extension Community Group has been launched:
>    http://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/
> To join the group, please use:
>   http://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/join
Many thanks to those who seconded the proposal and thanks in advance to 
anyone who joins.

Phil



On 10/12/2015 13:36, Phil Barker wrote:
> Hello all,
> further to the invitation below to get involved with building a schema 
> extension for educational courses, and after some discussion, I have 
> proposed a W3C Community Group to continue this work. You can read the 
> proposal at
> https://www.w3.org/community/blog/2015/12/10/proposed-group-schema-course-extension-community-group/
>
> If you are registered with W3C you can support the proposal, or, once 
> a couple more people have supported it, you can join the group. I 
> envisage kicking off the work in earnest in the New Year.
>
> For more details on how W3C Community groups work see 
> https://www.w3.org/community/about/
>
> Best regards, Phil Barker
>
> On 04/12/2015 09:32, Phil Barker wrote:
>> Hello all, this is essentially an invite to get involved with 
>> building a schema extension for educational courses, by way of a 
>> description of some of the work so far.
>>
>> I'm sending this primarily to the schema.org mail list, but cc-ing to 
>> LRMI and DC-Education where I hope there will also be some interest. 
>> (In case you don't know, LRMI = Learning Resource Metadata 
>> Initiative, part of DCMI. I'm a member of the task group, you are 
>> welcome to get involved if it sounds interesting[1].)
>>
>> About a year ago there was a flurry of discussion about wanting to 
>> markup descriptions of courses in schema [2]. Vicky Tardiff-Holland 
>> produced a proposal [3] which we discussed in LRMI and elsewhere as a 
>> result of which various suggestions were and comments were added to 
>> that proposal.
>>
>> I also led some work in LRMI around scope, use cases, requirements, 
>> existing data; which I hoped would lead to some validating/refining 
>> the proposal by some example data that could be used to demonstrate 
>> that it met the use cases [4].
>>
>> I am up for another push on courses. I share the doc I was working on 
>> [4] in the hope that it is good starting point. It's a bit long, so 
>> here is an overview of what it contains:
>> *
>> - scope:* concerning discovery of any type of educational course 
>> (online/offline, long/short, scheduled/on-demand) Educational course 
>> defined as "some sequence of events and/or creative works which aims 
>> to build knowledge, competence or ability of learners". (out of 
>> scope: information about students and their progression etc; 
>> information needed internally for course management rather than 
>> discovery)
>>
>> *- comparators*: a review of some established ways of sharing similar 
>> data
>>
>> *- use cases
>> - requirements arising from the use cases
>>
>> - mapping to some existing examples*. I used hypothes.is[5] to 
>> annotate existing web pages that describe different types of course, 
>> e.g. from Coursera or a University, tagging the requirement that the 
>> data was relevant to. Here's an example of a page as tagged: 
>> https://goo.gl/1IWjOh (click on a yellow highlight to show the 
>> relevant requirement as a comment with a tag)
>> hypothes.is aggregates the selected information for each tag, to give 
>> a list of the information relevant to each use case, for example 
>> https://hypothes.is/stream?q=tag:%27reqC%27
>>
>> I think the next step would be to review the use cases and 
>> requirements in light of some of the observations from the mapping, 
>> and to look again at the proposal to see how it reflects the data 
>> available/required. But first I want to try to get more people 
>> involved, see whether anyone has a better idea for how to progress, 
>> or if anyone wants to check the work so far and help move it forward.
>>
>> I'm aware the docs and discussions so far around schema for courses 
>> are a scattered set of scraps and drafts. If there is enough interest 
>> it would be really useful to have it in one place.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> 1. Task group at 
>> http://wiki.dublincore.org/index.php/AB-Comm/ed/LRMI/TG , specs at 
>> http://dublincore.org/dcx/lrmi-terms/1.1/ and general info at 
>> http://www.lrmi.net/
>> 2. See issue 195 on github 
>> https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/195
>> 3. 
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12YWjLzZC8FiTiOwSAETRIEozeqZdn6O8a4fgqK4t5Ss/edit#
>> 4. 
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U-s5HjNkWUtIoLAHjRcUZljBWEdHQIupk-KscAEIbFA/edit#
>> 5. https://hypothes.is/
>> -- 
>> Phil Barker           @philbarker
>> LRMI, Cetis, ICBLhttp://people.pjjk.net/phil
>> Heriot-Watt University
>>
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