Re: Toy proposal

Ok - but there has been extensive discussion about having lots of ‘types’ of product and I understood the general advice was to use wikidata to enumerate product types. What is so special about Toys that they deserve a type?

If libraries start marking up as Toy types, how will that compare to what the commercial sector does when describing Toys? What difference will this make.

Owen

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> On 16 Apr 2015, at 10:27, Wallis,Richard <Richard.Wallis@oclc.org> wrote:
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> In the spirit of the question, a simple answer is that they are - the proposed Toy type being a subtype of Product.
> 
> ~Richard
> 
> On 16 Apr 2015, at 11:16, Owen Stephens <owen@ostephens.com <mailto:owen@ostephens.com>> wrote:
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>> I’m going start with a simple question about Toy...
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>> Why aren’t Toys just handled as a schema.org <http://schema.org/> Product?
>> 
>> Owen
>> 
>> Owen Stephens
>> Owen Stephens Consulting
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>>> On 14 Apr 2015, at 22:26, Wallis,Richard <Richard.Wallis@oclc.org <mailto:Richard.Wallis@oclc.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> A few weeks back we discussed how this group or some of its members could participate as a bibliographic domain group to propose and review a bibliographic extension to schema.org <http://schema.org/> with the current working name of bib.schema.org <http://bib.schema.org/>.
>>> 
>>> Since then I have been liaising with Dan Brickley and others in the main Schema.org <http://schema.org/> group who have been working to establish the hosting software that enables the extension capability.  This work is now close to being ready for release.  Dan has indicated that this provides an excellent opportunity for a bibliographic extension to be one of, if not the first, enabled and released in this way.  In preparation for this, Dan Scott and I have put together a candidate set of types and properties that could constitute an initial bib extension release, which this email introduces.
>>> 
>>> There are many potential candidates for new/enhanced types and properties which the finessing and accepting of which would need to be the subject of some in depth discussion within this group.  To take advantage of the opportunity to release along with the capability release, however, we need to agree a starting subset fairly quickly.  To that end Dan and I have drawn up this initial (1.0) proposal consisting of what we believe to be things that are fairly noncontroversial. 
>>> 
>>> I list the proposed types and properties below with links to their representation in a development version of the Schema.org <http://schema.org/> site.  They are in three independent groups of proposals, for general bibliographic markup; some helpful things for the physical structure of archives & basic collections; and for comics.  
>>> 
>>> We can accept/reject either individual types and properties, or a whole group, because we need to explore things in more depth and defer things to a later release.  I would hope though that fairly quickly we could come to at least a subset of these as an initial release.
>>> 
>>> A reminder that Dan Brickley is still working on the software capable of handling extensions so please view the content more than how it currently displays.
>>> 
>>> General Bibliographic Types & Properties
>>> Agent <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Agent>
>>> Atlas <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Atlas>
>>> Chapter <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Chapter>
>>> Globe <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Globe>
>>> Kit <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Kit>
>>> Meeting <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Meeting>
>>> Newspaper <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Newspaper>
>>> MusicScore <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/MusicScore>
>>> PublicationSeries <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/PublicationSeries>
>>> Thesis <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Thesis>
>>> Toy <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Toy>
>>> BookFormatType:AudioBook <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/AudioBook>
>>> BookFormatType:LargePrintBook <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/LargePrintBook>
>>> BookFormatType:PrintBook <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/PrintBook>
>>> MapCategoryType:CartographicMap <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/CartographicMap>
>>> inSupportOf <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/inSupportOf>
>>> translationOfWork <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/translationOfWork>
>>> translator <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/translator>
>>> workTranslation <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/workTranslation>
>>> 
>>> Archive Containers/Collection
>>> BoxContainer <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/BoxContainer>
>>> Collection <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Collection>
>>> Container <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Container>
>>> FolderContainer <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/FolderContainer>
>>> Shelf <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Shelf>
>>> contains <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/contains>
>>> containedIn <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/containedIn>
>>> 
>>> Comics
>>> ComicIssue <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/ComicIssue>
>>> ComicSeries <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/ComicSeries>
>>> ComicStory <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/ComicStory>
>>> CoverArt <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/CoverArt>
>>> ComicCoverArt <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/ComicCoverArt>
>>> BookFormatType:GraphicNovel <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/GraphicNovel>
>>> artist <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/artist>
>>> colorist <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/colorist>
>>> inker <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/inker>
>>> letterer <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/letterer> 
>>> penciler <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/penciler>
>>> publisherImprint <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/publisherImprint>
>>> variantCover <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/variantCover>
>>> 
>>> I look forward to comments.
>>> 
>>> ~Richard.
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