Re: An initial proposal for bib.schema.org

Very nice! It will be great to have comics-specific bibliographic types and
properties to make use of and map to. Just for clarification, this
supersedes the current Comics proposal, with the potential for these
elements to be incorporated in the main branch of schema.org at some point?

A few suggestions/comments for comics:

1. inker --- suggestion for definition: *"individual who finalizes (or
embellishes, finishes, retraces) the pencil drawings in ink after pencils
are complete"*, to call out the artistic role and remove the negative
connotation with the term "tracing" in relationship to inking comics.

2. ComicIssue --- suggestion for definition: *"All comic issues can be
uniquely identified by: the combination of the name and volume number of
the series to which the issue belongs; the issue number; and the variant
description of the issue"*, may also want to add publisher name here as
well. Many licenses pass from publisher to publisher, all having the same
name and possibly volume number (e.g. Godzilla [1]), making it hard to
identify titles without the publisher or imprint name.

3. Volumes --- is there a reason ComicVolume is not included? For example,
PublicationVolume -> ComicVolume would seem to fit. I know that the Grand
Comics Database and other sites do not incorporate a volume number, but
other resources, like ComicVine and Overstreet do group issues within a
series by volume and designate a volume number (either officially or
unofficially), in addition to the start year [2].

4. Manga --- has Manga been addressed previously? Perhaps not in this exact
version of the extension, but I do think there would be some benefit to
having a specific subtype for Manga as a distinctive format of comics
material, especially with regard to library materials.

5. Would it be possible to add a reprints/reprintedIn (or collects)
property pair to ComicIssue? Or perhaps there is an existing equivalent
that can be suggested. This is a pretty helpful property for describing
relationships between and linking together comics material, and is often
used to describe the contents of collected editions [2] [3].

6. variantCover ---- While I think most variances of note between issues
will be the cover art, there are others such as newsstand editions, direct
editions, price variants, etc., and while these all relate to the cover
(and are clarified in the example), perhaps modify the definition slightly
to read *"A description of the variance of the issue, if the issue is a
variant edition or printing". *

Again nice work, I'm looking forward to seeing this published. I'm
particularly fond of the Containers/Collections group for use with comics,
especially Shelf.

Sean Petiya


[1] IDW - http://www.comics.org/series/72969/, Dark Horse -
http://www.comics.org/series/16216/, Marvel -
http://www.comics.org/series/2392/
[2]
http://marvel.com/comics/issue/23040/guardians_of_the_galaxy_vol_1_legacy_premiere_hardcover
[3] http://www.worldcat.org/title/guardians-of-the-galaxy-legacy (see Notes)


On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Wallis,Richard <Richard.Wallis@oclc.org>
wrote:

>  Hi all,
>
>  A few weeks back we discussed how this group or some of its members
> could participate as a bibliographic domain group to propose and review a
> bibliographic extension to schema.org with the current working name of
> bib.schema.org.
>
>  Since then I have been liaising with Dan Brickley and others in the main
> Schema.org group who have been working to establish the hosting software
> that enables the extension capability.  This work is now close to being
> ready for release.  Dan has indicated that this provides an excellent
> opportunity for a bibliographic extension to be one of, if not the first,
> enabled and released in this way.  In preparation for this, Dan Scott and I
> have put together a candidate set of types and properties that could
> constitute an initial bib extension release, which this email introduces.
>
>  There are many potential candidates for new/enhanced types and
> properties which the finessing and accepting of which would need to be the
> subject of some in depth discussion within this group.  To take advantage
> of the opportunity to release along with the capability release, however,
> we need to agree a starting subset fairly quickly.  To that end Dan and I
> have drawn up this initial (1.0) proposal consisting of what we believe to
> be things that are fairly noncontroversial.
>
>  I list the proposed types and properties below with links to their
> representation in a development version of the Schema.org site.  They are
> in three independent groups of proposals, for general bibliographic markup;
> some helpful things for the physical structure of archives & basic
> collections; and for comics.
>
>  We can accept/reject either individual types and properties, or a whole
> group, because we need to explore things in more depth and defer things to
> a later release.  I would hope though that fairly quickly we could come to
> at least a subset of these as an initial release.
>
>  A reminder that Dan Brickley is still working on the software capable of
> handling extensions so please view the content more than how it currently
> displays.
>
>  General Bibliographic Types & Properties
>
>    - Agent <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Agent>
>    - Atlas <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Atlas>
>    - Chapter <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Chapter>
>    - Globe <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Globe>
>    - Kit <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Kit>
>    - Meeting <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Meeting>
>    - Newspaper <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Newspaper>
>    - MusicScore <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/MusicScore>
>    - PublicationSeries <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/PublicationSeries>
>    - Thesis <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Thesis>
>    - Toy <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Toy>
>    - BookFormatType:AudioBook <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/AudioBook>
>    - BookFormatType:LargePrintBook
>    <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/LargePrintBook>
>    - BookFormatType:PrintBook <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/PrintBook>
>    - MapCategoryType:CartographicMap
>    <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/CartographicMap>
>    - inSupportOf <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/inSupportOf>
>    - translationOfWork <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/translationOfWork>
>    - translator <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/translator>
>    - workTranslation <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/workTranslation>
>
>
>  Archive Containers/Collection
>
>    - BoxContainer <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/BoxContainer>
>    - Collection <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Collection>
>    - Container <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Container>
>    - FolderContainer <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/FolderContainer>
>    - Shelf <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Shelf>
>    - contains <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/contains>
>    - containedIn <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/containedIn>
>
>
>  Comics
>
>    - ComicIssue <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/ComicIssue>
>    - ComicSeries <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/ComicSeries>
>    - ComicStory <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/ComicStory>
>    - CoverArt <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/CoverArt>
>    - ComicCoverArt <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/ComicCoverArt>
>    - BookFormatType:GraphicNovel <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/GraphicNovel>
>    - artist <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/artist>
>    - colorist <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/colorist>
>    - inker <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/inker>
>    - letterer <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/letterer>
>    - penciler <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/penciler>
>    - publisherImprint <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/publisherImprint>
>    - variantCover <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/variantCover>
>
>
>  I look forward to comments.
>
>  ~Richard.
>