Re: journal article for next call?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Owen Stephens <owen@ostephens.com> wrote:
> Sorry I only managed to get on the very end of the call so you may well have
> covered this in your discussions.
>
> I can see the motivation, but I think that its misleading in other ways -
> especially as the issue will have a physical manifestation in some cases.
> I'd argue that the issue is a creative work - especially if we are talking
> about issues of less "academic" periodicals - for example the January issue
> of Wired is surely a creative work in it's own right? The issues will have
> editorials which are based around the issue, although they are obviously
> creative works in their own right as well.

I wouldn't say "surely"; I thought about it initially and came to the
decision that it was qualitatively different from other creative
works. But I have been convinced otherwise on the call. Now that opens
up the potential to add in credits for the people who do layout and
advertising and other general tasks not associated with particular
articles onto CreativeWork too!

> We also hit the problem of dealing with edited monographs where each chapter
> is originally an article published elsewhere - how do these differ from a
> journal issue in terms of creativity? (they differ in other ways of course -
> not least in their relationship to a 'journal')
>
> So - I think while for some issues I'd agree the creativity involved in
> building the issue is minimal, I don't think this applies across the board
> and I don't fancy getting into debates as to which issues are creative and
> which are not!

Right, as noted above we agreed on the call to go the CreativeWork
route; to be precise, we opted to go with Thing -> CreativeWork ->
Collection -> Periodical and Thing -> CreativeWork -> Collection ->
Issuance as the hierarchy. (And I agreed to change the proposal
accordingly).

> In terms of pagination going into CreativeWork I don't feel strongly - there
> are plenty of properties on CreativeWork that don't apply to all more
> specific types under CreativeWork so I don't see a particular problem there
> if the wider community is OK with it. It would apply to book chapters if
> there is markup for those in the future which would be nice.

Sure, at which point "pagination" might as well go onto CreativeWork.

> Finally I can't say I'm keen on Issuance although it's not something I'd
> lose sleep over. Perhaps something like 'PublicationIssue' might work?

Well, PublicationIssue is not connected with Periodical.
PeriodicalIssue I could live with if I had to. I suppose that would
change the corresponding property name to "periodicalIssue" then.

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