- From: Richard Wallis <richard.wallis@oclc.org>
- Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:36:07 +0000
- To: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>, <public-schemabibex@w3.org>
On 15/02/2013 18:02, "Karen Coyle" <kcoyle@kcoyle.net> wrote: > I'm not finding a "collection" concept in schema.org -- that will be > needed not only for series but for archival collections and even > collections that are bibliographies (e.g. a page on a professor's web > site of all of her publications). Maybe a broad "collection" concept > would be a good place to start, with more specific types of collections > coming later. CreativeWork could have an "inCollection" - that would > work for art, music, etc. There is a collection concept but is lurking below Webpage <http://schema.org/CollectionPage>. I remember some conversation about it being brought up to CreativeWork level - maybe we should resurrect and sponsor that proposal. ~Richard > On 2/15/13 9:14 AM, Young,Jeff (OR) wrote: >> The Product Ontology includes several types of series: >> >> http://www.productontology.org/id/Book_series >> >> http://www.productontology.org/id/Film_series >> >> More could be added by fixing up Wikipedia pages to represent them. >> >> Jeff >> >> *From:*Tom Morris [mailto:tfmorris@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2013 11:38 AM >> *To:* Graham Bell >> *Cc:* Wallis,Richard; public-schemabibex@w3.org; Laura Dawson >> *Subject:* Re: Series >> >> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Graham Bell <graham@editeur.org >> <mailto:graham@editeur.org>> wrote: >> >> Not just children's titles. Nested series -- and intersecting >> series, where one book is #7 in one series and #3 in another -- are >> reasonably common in scholarly monograph publishing. >> >> I think it's useful to distinguish between series created by authors >> (e.g. Dune) and series created by publisher (Great American Classics) >> because they have very different characteristics. Freebase calls these >> two different things Literary Series >> <http://www.freebase.com/view/book/literary_series> and Book Edition >> Series <http://www.freebase.com/view/book/book_edition_series> >> >> And a single series might have multiple sequential orderings. >> Compare publication order with narrative order, for example (my >> usual example is /The Chronicles of Narnia/, where /Voyage of the >> Dawn Treader/ can be #3 or #5, but you could equally consider /Star >> Wars /or anything with a/'prequel'/). Again, films may have done >> this already. >> >> Publication date sequencing can be computed using existing information, >> so I think narrative sequence is the more important thing to capture. >> >> Tom >> >> Graham >> >> EDItEUR >> >> On 15 Feb 2013, at 15:23, Laura Dawson wrote: >> >> >> >> That's a good idea, actually. One thing that concerned me initially >> was the fact that particularly with children's titles, series have >> series within series (it's a marketing thing - get a kid hooked on a >> series, and then start up a sub-series). We spent a lot of time >> grappling with this at Barnes & Noble.com <http://Noble.com>. But >> then I remembered Law & Order and CSI - and yeah, I bet the TV >> structure already has this covered. >> >> *From: *Richard Wallis <richard.wallis@oclc.org >> <mailto:richard.wallis@oclc.org>> >> *Date: *Friday, February 15, 2013 9:51 AM >> *To: *"public-schemabibex@w3.org <mailto:public-schemabibex@w3.org>" >> <public-schemabibex@w3.org <mailto:public-schemabibex@w3.org>> >> *Subject: *Series >> *Resent-From: *<public-schemabibex@w3.org >> <mailto:public-schemabibex@w3.org>> >> *Resent-Date: *Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:52:38 +0000 >> >> Looking at the Google Knowledge Graph display for Dune Messiah >> <http://www.google.co.uk/#q=dune+messiah> reminds me that we need to >> address the issue of series. >> >> Do we follow the model of TVSeries and TVEpisode at least we would >> not have to worry about a TVSeason equivalent ;-) >> >> Then of course there are serials, but I think we should hold off >> opening that can of worms until we have agreed some of the simpler >> stuff! >> >> ~Richard. >>
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