Re: Enumerations: courseMode <CourseMode>, courseDigitalFormat <CourseDigitalFormat>, accessibilityPhysicalFeature <AccessibilityPhysicalFeature>

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 1:50 AM, Phil Barker <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hello Wes, everyone.
> Yes, enumerations are good when you can reach consensus on what they
> should be. The problem is agreeing on them across the scope of all people
> who might use schema.org. External enumerations [1] would help by
> reducing the scope of the required agreement.
>

+1 -- While reducing scope through external enumerations does not buy the
same level of interoperability as a commonly shared vocabulary, they would
serve in an area like this where agreement on terminology is unlikely given
the legitimate range of national and cultural differences.


> In general, I think the enumerations can be added later. I think we can
> propose a property and then, when we see how it is used, add in
> enumerations as required.
>

+1


> Taking the properties that you suggest would benefit from an enumeration
> in turn:
>
> AccessibilityPhysicalFeature
> - I think this is beyond our competence. Physical accessibility for events
> / locations needs to be considered in a much wider context than Courses and
> by people who understand the issues involved. I would rather leave it to a
> different working group. (This incidentally is what LRMI did for
> accessibility of creative works, and it worked out quite well.)
>

+1 -- Leaving this to the accessibility experts has played out well so far
in schema.org. If there is more to be done in this context, then I'd
suggest re-engagement of  the accessibility community. They remain active
here in the schema.org context (e.g., recent enhancements suggested by
Madeleine
Rothberg).

>
> CourseMode
> - Agreed. The option set for the CEDS Course Section Instructional
> Delivery Mode https://ceds.ed.gov/element/001161 seems like a good
> starting point. I know Jim Goodell is interested in whatever it takes to
> make the CEDS vocabularies more usable in the wider RDF world.
>
> +1 for building on CEDS where it fits in a global context.

>
> CourseDigitalFormat
> - I am not convinced we even need this as a property. Can we start a
> separate thread to discuss it?
>
>
> W3C support for Semantic MediaWiki
> - What level of support? The community group wikis are Semantic MediaWiki
> (at least according the badge on the bottom right of the
> schema-course-extend and web-schemas wikipages). Do you mean support in how
> to use it? I tried using SMW for a different task last summer and found it
> a difficult combination of RDF thinking and some of the more esoteric
> features of MediaWiki.
>
> Phil
>
> 1. https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/894
>
> On 21/05/16 16:22, Wes Turner wrote:
>
> In reading the examples that Phil added here:
> <https://github.com/westurner/schemaorg/pull/3#issuecomment-220782903>
> https://github.com/westurner/schemaorg/pull/3#issuecomment-220782903
>
> I wonder whether, for faceted interface support, we should have courseMode
> Enumerations?
>
> We could define said Enumerations just like these:
> https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Accessibility
>
>
> AccessibilityPhysicalFeature (for Place, Event, CreativeWork, )
> https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Accessibility PhysicalFeature
> - name
> - description
> - url
> - image / logo / photo (Creative Commons {SVGs,} would be great here)
> - https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/pull/972#issuecomment-173698449
>
>
> CourseMode
> https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/CourseMode
> - name
> - description
> - url
>
>
> CourseDigitalFormat
> https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/CourseDigitalFormat
> - name
> - version
> - description
> - url
>
>
> Suggestions:
> - These Enumeration URLs should/could be copy-paste-able
> - Semantic MediaWiki supports RDFa
>   - IDK how feasible it would be to get W3C support for Semantic MediaWiki
> (or really who to contact for such a request)
>
>
>
> --
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> Phil Barker           @philbarker
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> Heriot-Watt University
>
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