- From: Vicki Tardif Holland <vtardif@google.com>
- Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 14:54:12 -0500
- To: Phil Barker <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk>
- Cc: Stuart Sutton <sasutton@dublincore.net>, "public-schema-course-extend@w3.org" <public-schema-course-extend@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAOr1obHU-c9g4g6+a=CZgnn3DBXU+W8EaPxLdwfs-=WqXbsEjA@mail.gmail.com>
I have been working through some use cases for degree programs. Would it be useful for me to share what I have drafted so far? - Vicki Vicki Tardif Holland | Ontologist | vtardif@google.com On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Phil Barker <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk> wrote: > > > On 03/02/16 13:31, Stuart Sutton wrote: > > Phil, one question regarding the scope and definition. There has been > discussion of the notion of program/course of study (variously named...even > called simply course). The scope can be inferred to include description of > programs of study from: (1) the definition, "An educational course is > defined as a sequence of events and/or creative works which aims to build > knowledge, competency and ability of learners" and (2) Use Case #8 (set of > courses); and (3) from several of the examples (physics at U of Bristol) > and the program of study in Dental Assisting (and associated course). > > Personally, I'd like to see the scope inclusion of both course and > program/course of study made explicit as opposed to being inferred, and, as > a result, subject to speculation and debate. > > Yes, now is the time to debate whether tracks/programs are in scope. If > they are that should be explicit > > Like you I think they should be. > > Whether we need a distinct type for programmes or whether having a course > which includes courses is sensible or sufficient is something we should > discuss later. > > Phil > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 4:36 AM, Phil Barker <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk> wrote: > >> >> OK, thanks for the feedback. No one said that they objected to using the >> outline use cases as a starting point for discussion, so that is what we >> will do. >> >> I hope we can deal with most of the use cases as separate issues, with a >> short discussion thread about each one leading to a worked example of how >> the proposal would deal with it. I'll start a tracking issue in Github >> which mirrors these use cases and some of the bigger picture issues (e.g. >> is a course a creative work or an intangible, do we need Course and >> CourseOffering as separate types) to keep a liaison point with the main >> schema.org activity. I also want to check that there is nothing missing, >> and that the basic scope is agreed. SO: >> >> *Question: *looking at the use cases, scope description and definition >> of an educational course, does anyone want to suggest any changes, >> additions, deletions... >> >> Scope and definition are here: >> <https://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/wiki/Main_Page> >> https://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/wiki/Main_Page >> Outline use cases here: >> https://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/wiki/Outline_use_cases >> >> I have "retired" the google doc: you can view but not edit it, and there >> is link pointing people from there to the wiki. >> >> Phil >> >> On 29/01/16 09:53, Richard Wallis wrote: >> >> +1 for the W3C Wiki. >> >> Not only will it help discussion and examples, but it can become an >> easily discovered source of practice and background that can remain well >> after any extension(s) are adopted. >> >> ~Richard. >> >> Richard Wallis >> Founder, Data Liberate >> http://dataliberate.com >> Linkedin: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/richardwallis> >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/richardwallis> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/richardwallis >> Twitter: @rjw >> >> On 29 January 2016 at 09:49, Miquel Centelles < <mcentellesv@gmail.com> >> mcentellesv@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I'd prefer the W3C group wiki. >>> >>> Miquel Centelles >>> >>> 2016-01-28 15:05 GMT+01:00 Phil Barker < <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk> >>> phil.barker@hw.ac.uk>: >>> >>>> Hello all >>>> In our kick-off meeting Dan proposed that we use the Schema for Courses >>>> [ <https://goo.gl/DnTTsb>https://goo.gl/DnTTsb] document with use case >>>> sketches to identify what we wanted the schema course extension to cover. >>>> >>>> I offered to simplify this a little and put it on the Community Group >>>> wiki, which I have done, see: >>>> https://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/wiki/Outline_use_cases >>>> >>>> The idea is that these outline use cases would describe what we want >>>> the proposal to cover. We would be able to provide an example, based >>>> (ideally) on data from a real website, of how the proposal provided markup >>>> for the information required for that use case. >>>> >>>> *Question:* does anyone object to this approach? If so please let us >>>> know in the next few days. >>>> >>>> If no one objects to the overall approach, we might want to discuss >>>> some use cases (including suggesting additions) in more detail. I think for >>>> most of them it should be pretty straightforward to show how current >>>> proposals meet them. >>>> >>>> *Question:* We have a choice between W3C group wiki and google docs >>>> for working docs. I don't want to have a document live on both. 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