Re: Twitter Bluesky -- Building a Social Web

Melvin,

Have you looked at the Indieweb community. The Indieweb ecosystem has more
active users than mastodon et al, is completely decentralised, is being
used as a twitter replacement, and too compliment twitter, is well
documented, and can/is being extended.

https://indieweb.org/

Pete

On Sat, 25 Sept 2021 at 23:43, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> hi john / tim
>>
>> thanks for the comments, I think there is a degree of singal to noise,
>> that we should try and move the needle back towards standards to read and
>> write to the web
>>
>> im super interested in your use case of web payments, and have been for
>> 1-2 decades
>>
>> if you think about ledgers, and distributed ledgers, they are as old as
>> time or writing, and the data structure is simply that of an entity and a
>> balance
>>
>> changes in that ledger are what we call transactions, which is a form or
>> reading and writing to the "web" which is really designed to be a multi
>> protocol space
>>
>> i absolutely agree with you in that zero conf tx should be first class as
>> a user experience, so mempool for example close to definitive, and edits
>> such as replace by fee have potentially negative side-effects
>>
>> creating a middle layer on the web, with basically royalty-free
>> settlement (e.g. bitcoin / lightning) I think is for me the most compelling
>> use case for the RWW
>>
>> would be quite happy to pivot conversation into how to do that etc.
>>
>> for example I was working with @bumi last week to add lightning payments
>> to the web via his extension
>>
>> to do so I added :
>>
>> <meta name="lightning" content="
>> lnurlp:LNURL1DP68GURN8GHJ7MRWVF5HGUEWVDHK6TMVDE6HYMRS9ASHQ6F0WCCJ7MRWW4EXCTECXQCQWSRAQ7"
>> />
>>
>> which routes to
>>
>> https://lnbits.com/
>>
>> this is a brilliant service
>>
>> tim, it's fine to vent from time to time, I certainly am more guilty that
>> most of that, but id ask you to moderate that a bit and try and orient
>> posts also towards innovation around read and write web standards
>>
>> best
>> melvin
>>
>> On Fri, 24 Sept 2021 at 20:32, Bitcoin Error Log <
>> bitcoinerrorlog@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Please remove me from this mailing list, it seems to be all noise and
>>> ranting about failed designs.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 1:29 PM Timothy Holborn <
>>> timothy.holborn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Seems foolish for me to highlight cimba / old rww server examples, but
>>>> perhaps we here the fastest path to peace?
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps someone who better understands the code could speak up to them?
>>>>
>>>> See, it something soon is preferred over something eventually.
>>>>
>>>> People have been shot with rubber bullets as a health measure in my
>>>> hometown.
>>>>
>>>> AFAIK: there were a few old pieces to it, in. Webizen.org which I'm
>>>> happy to gift to a suitable custodian.
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I tried in 2018 to make a mobile RWW app (very similar to
>>>> gov versions now being deployed, with different functionality).
>>>>
>>>> There's a couple of examples about mobile phones being used as
>>>> webservers.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously also, the WebID-TLS goes away on a (personal) mobile device.
>>>>
>>>> Alot of people are using telegram, which uses alot of local data
>>>> storage.
>>>>
>>>> I'm starting to build a list of non-US based apps, just to see if it's
>>>> possible.
>>>>
>>>> I care about human rights / rule of law.
>>>>
>>>> I do not support redaction of reality to support people who harm others.
>>>>
>>>> I also firmly believe, the place to sort out problems is courts of law.
>>>> Not otherwise.
>>>>
>>>> The challenge is in ensuring our tech, does that.  This has been the
>>>> problem that let me to W3C, given the focus of others, it remains the
>>>> problem. I'm not happy about it.
>>>>
>>>> Timothy Holborn.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 17 Aug 2021, 4:01 am Melvin Carvalho, <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Might be interest to some folks here
>>>>>
>>>>> Jack's tweet:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://twitter.com/jack/status/1427315839666118662
>>>>>
>>>>> Website
>>>>>
>>>>> https://blueskyweb.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> "We're focusing on re-building the social web by connecting
>>>>> disconnected silos and returning control of the social experience to users.
>>>>> Our mission is to develop and drive the adoption of technologies for open
>>>>> and decentralized public conversation."
>>>>>
>>>>> I've added a page in our wiki, which we can track progress, and add
>>>>> links over time:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.w3.org/community/rww/wiki/Bluesky
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ~ John Carvalho
>>>
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>>