- From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 02:04:59 +1000
- To: Martynas Jusevičius <martynas@atomgraph.com>
- Cc: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, public-rww <public-rww@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAM1Sok2mXaUYVNoZRxtPzHmaUtOEAy-HmHUKuXbBY0x3dQ=cSA@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, 18 May 2021 at 01:45, Martynas Jusevičius <martynas@atomgraph.com> wrote: > LDP is a poor protocol period. > > Graph Store Protocol is more appropriate for RWW. After all, Linked > Data can be looked at as a giant global table of quads. > found: - https://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-http-rdf-update/ - https://w3c.github.io/rdf-tests/sparql11/data-sparql11/http-rdf-update/index.html > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 3:40 PM Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> > wrote: > > > > On 5/17/21 8:44 AM, Timothy Holborn wrote: > > > The concept of RWW started a long time ago. > > > > > > Yes, it is as old as the World Wide Web (Web) itself. > > > > The Web is simply a document network constructed from hyperlinks > > (specifically HTTP URIs) that denote: > > > > 1. Entities of type Document > > > > 2. Entity Relationship Types that are transitive in nature i.e., > > "links_to" relation . > > > > An unfortunate characteristic of the Web is that there isn't consensus > > regarding: > > > > 1. Entity Identifiers > > 2. Entity Types > > 3. Entity Relationship Types e.g., what is the canonical "links_to" > > relation and what is its identifier? > > > > So confusion reigns leaving opportunity for abuse and detrimental > > exploitation as the world has experienced en masse re: > > > > 1. Quixotic state of Democracy > > > > 2. COVID-19 Pandemic > > > > 3. Misinformation and Fake News > > > > > > > > > > Question posed is; > > > > > > What's the modern (well referenced) definition? (Incremental growth > > > of past "definitions, etc. Perhaps therein also, better clarity of > > > previously assumed characteristics / constituencies, etc.) > > > > > > A Read-Write Web is a hyperlink-based network that offers both read and > > write capabilities to its users. Nothing has changed, bar increased > > murkiness surrounding: > > > > 1. Identity > > 2. Identification > > 3. Authentication > > 4. Authorization > > 5. Storage > > > > > > > > > > A few substantial papers have been written on it, historically. > > > > > > Yes, and they've achieve little if anything -- IMHO. > > > > > > > > > > So, What are some basic truths about the scope of works, and it's > > > place in a broader ecosystem? > > > > > > To illustrate the deliberation / question: (as distinct to a "brand > > > name" alternative framework; that may have differences), > > > > > > - RWW Builds upon LDP? > > > > > > LDP is a poorly named RWW protocol. > > > > > > > - concerns multi-agent use of web-cloud or web-server infrastructure? > > > > > > Conceptually yes, but cannot work practically without clarity about > > items 1-5 above. Unfortunately, these waters remain murky for political > > rather than technical reasons -- IMHO. > > > > > > > - Relates to the permissive use of software agents? (If so, how?) > > > > > > See comment above. > > > > > > > - is built upon HTTP(s/a/'X') agents? > > > > > > V2 supports > > > - "tamper evident" provenance in (a yet to be determined) defined way? > > > - supports informatics sources from decentralised agents (or: > > > "blockchains") > > > - temporal uniformity of semantic queries on a temporaral basis (or: > > > decentralised temporal queries?) > > > > > > I thought I'd pose the points as a question rather than as a > > > statement, in seeking to be constructive... > > > > > > It boils down to solving the murkiness around items 1-5 above, IMHO. > > > > > > Kingsley > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Timothy Holborn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Kingsley Idehen > > Founder & CEO > > OpenLink Software > > Home Page: http://www.openlinksw.com > > Community Support: https://community.openlinksw.com > > Weblogs (Blogs): > > Company Blog: https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog > > Virtuoso Blog: https://medium.com/virtuoso-blog > > Data Access Drivers Blog: > https://medium.com/openlink-odbc-jdbc-ado-net-data-access-drivers > > > > Personal Weblogs (Blogs): > > Medium Blog: https://medium.com/@kidehen > > Legacy Blogs: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/ > > http://kidehen.blogspot.com > > > > Profile Pages: > > Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/kidehen/ > > Quora: https://www.quora.com/profile/Kingsley-Uyi-Idehen > > Twitter: https://twitter.com/kidehen > > Google+: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about > > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen > > > > Web Identities (WebID): > > Personal: http://kingsley.idehen.net/public_home/kidehen/profile.ttl#i > > : > http://id.myopenlink.net/DAV/home/KingsleyUyiIdehen/Public/kingsley.ttl#this > > > > > >
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