Re: A Quick Note on WebID history - Re: All the Agents Challenge (ATAC) at ISWC 2021

On 7/26/21 1:08 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
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> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 at 18:27, Ted Thibodeau Jr
> <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com <mailto:tthibodeau@openlinksw.com>> wrote:
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>     On Jul 26, 2021, at 02:34 AM, Melvin Carvalho
>     <melvincarvalho@gmail.com <mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>     Ah, I see the issue here
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>>     The current WebID spec is in fact tightly coupled to Turtle (and
>>     http) via "MUST"
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>>     https://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/spec/identity/
>>     <https://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/spec/identity/>
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>     Those who fail to read the "Status of This Document" are
>     doomed to pain and agony all the days of their implementation.
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>     To wit:
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>>     This document is produced from work by the W3C WebID Community
>>     Group <http://www.w3.org/community/webid/>. This is an internal
>>     draft document and may not even end up being officially
>>     published. It may also be updated, replaced or obsoleted by other
>>     documents at any time. It is inappropriate to cite this document
>>     as other than work in progress. The source code for this document
>>     is available at the following URI: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/WebID
>>     <https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/WebID>
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>>     This document was published by the WebID CG
>>     <http://www.w3.org/community/webid/> as an Editor's Draft. If you
>>     wish to make comments regarding this document, please send them
>>     to public-webid@w3.org <mailto:public-webid@w3.org> (subscribe
>>     <mailto:public-webid-request@w3.org?subject=subscribe>, archives
>>     <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webid/>). All
>>     comments are welcome.
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>>     Publication as an Editor's Draft does not imply endorsement by
>>     the W3C Membership. This is a draft document and may be updated,
>>     replaced or obsoleted by other documents at any time. It is
>>     inappropriate to cite this document as other than work in progress.
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>     In other words: This is not a spec, current or otherwise.
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>     It is very much an Editor's Draft, coming from the discussions
>     of what was then an Incubator Group, and transformed into a
>     Community Group, but really reflecting the opinions of the
>     Chair who was doing double-duty as Editor, much more than of 
>     the group as a whole.
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>     It does not come close to reflecting consensus of that old XG 
>     (of which I was a member), never mind transition to a Candidate 
>     Recommendation, and further progress down the REC-track was 
>     likewise years away, as there was never a WebID Working Group.
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>     In my opinion, it should never have received the Respec skin 
>     it has, which makes it *look* like something it isn't, and
>     at a minimum, W3C should find a way to put the watermarks
>     now in common use on draft specs in the github.io
>     <http://github.io> space onto
>     all the old draft specs that will otherwise continue to draw
>     people into thinking that output of one person's keyboard
>     have the same weight as the work product of several if not
>     dozens of people intellectual and technical efforts.
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> Good points.  I guess it was last updated over 7 years ago and both of
> the editors are no longer active
>
> And a lot has changed in that time!
>  


Yes, but it was never a spec endorsed by the W3C.

Today, it still isn't a spec endorsed by the W3C.

All we have in reality is "WebID" as a colloquialism for an HTTP
Identifier that denotes an Agent, and is generally conflated with a
protocol for credential verification that goes by the moniker "WebID-TLS" .

I am betting on verifiable credentials working via an emergent de facto
protocol that's adopted en masse by developers at some point. However we
get there, the following constants will be in play:

1. Logic as the Conceptual Schema

2. Resolvable Identifiers

3. Credentials that manifest as an Entity Relationship Graph comprising
Resolvable Identifiers

4. Credential verification protocol

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