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Re: CERN involvement in the W3C WebAC WG

From: Maria Dimou <maria.dimou@cern.ch>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 13:37:11 +0100
To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>, <timbl+mariadimou@w3.org>
CC: public-rww <public-rww@w3.org>
Message-ID: <744b080c-9fd1-7a39-0d44-cecf242b5331@cern.ch>
Dear Melvin, dear Tim,

thank you for your attention. Here is the proposal with the effort 
estimates: 
http://cern.ch/dimou/personal/CERN-W3C_Collaboration_2017_proposal.pdf 
<http://cern.ch/dimou/personal/CERN-W3C_Collaboration_2017_proposal.pdf>

I avoided concrete technical details and suggestions for WG formation, 
until I get a positive reply from the CERN management. As Tim knows, 
I've been submitting such proposals
for a number of years but the dynamics here are complex...

Thank you again!
Maria

On 23.11.2017 09:25, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>
>
> On 22 November 2017 at 16:31, Maria Dimou <Maria.Dimou@cern.ch 
> <mailto:Maria.Dimou@cern.ch>> wrote:
>
>     Dear Melvin,
>
>     just a kind reminder for the estimation of effort (meetings, paper
>     reviews) that the WebAC work requires from its participants. This
>     is my proposal
>     http://cern.ch/dimou/personal/CERN-W3C_Collaboration_2017_proposal.pdf
>     <http://cern.ch/dimou/personal/CERN-W3C_Collaboration_2017_proposal.pdf>
>
>
> Hi Maria, that document looks great! :)
>
> I mentioned this to TimBL (cc'd), who remembers you at CERN :)
>
> The web access control work is actively used in software development 
> with various projects.
>
> The interaction is regularly, weekly or daily, but tends to be in 
> places such as chat rooms (e.g. gitter) and github (issues), in 
> addition to mailing lists and wikis.
>
> The wiki is largely complete and ready to implement, which is what 
> many of us are doing.
>
> In terms of a formal working group, Tim did say we could possibly fire 
> up a quick working group if needed, tho that would require a number of 
> independent implementations.
>
> I'd be happy to provide further data points in terms of usage, if you 
> can give me an idea of what you're looking for and/or what would be 
> helpful
>
> Hope that helps! :)
>
>
>     Thank you
>     Maria
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* Maria Dimou [maria.dimou@cern.ch <mailto:maria.dimou@cern.ch>]
>     *Sent:* 16 November 2017 17:15
>     *To:* Melvin Carvalho
>     *Cc:* public-rww
>     *Subject:* Re: CERN involvement in the W3C WebAC WG
>
>     Thank you Melvin. This is very useful. Open data is open:-D but we
>     have other applications with access control. Is the work finalised
>     or does W3C propose technical changes that become standards? In
>     order to have any chance for my proposal to be considered by the
>     CERN IT management, I need to know whether WebAC involves people
>     still meeting, writing, reviewing... to understand how much
>     time/effort is required from the developers for this
>     standardisation work (if this work is still on-going).
>
>     Thanks very much for your help!
>
>     yours
>
>     Maria
>
>     On 16.11.2017 16:56, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>>
>>
>>     On 16 November 2017 at 15:51, Melvin Carvalho
>>     <melvincarvalho@gmail.com <mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 16 November 2017 at 13:36, Maria Dimou
>>         <maria.dimou@cern.ch <mailto:maria.dimou@cern.ch>> wrote:
>>
>>             Hello!
>>
>>             I wrote a proposal to include CERN Open Data<http://opendata.cern.ch/> <http://opendata.cern.ch/>  
>>             developers in the WebAC W3C WG and need to quantify this involvement.
>>
>>             Can you please tell me what it means in terms of members' involvement
>>             (f2f or video conf. meetings, email activity, co-authoring, reviewing
>>             papers etc)?
>>
>>             Thank you very much in advance
>>
>>
>>         Hi Maria, thanks for the question.  Perhaps this is posted to
>>         the wrong list?
>>
>>         I dont know what the WebAC W3C WG is?
>>
>>
>>     Ah I see, you mean ?
>>
>>     https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebAccessControl
>>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebAccessControl>
>>
>>     WG I understood as Working Group.  We dont have a W3C Working
>>     Group (that im aware, there might be one tho!)
>>
>>     If you mean editing the wiki, anyone is free to do so, so please
>>     go ahead! :)
>>
>>     Any more insights on the cern open data set.  Does it have access
>>     control?
>>
>>             Maria Dimou / CERN
>>
>>             -- 
>>             Maria Dimoumaria.dimou@cern.ch <mailto:maria.dimou@cern.ch>      http://cern.ch/dimou
>>             CERN                    CH-1211 Geneva 23       Switzerland
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>
>

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Maria Dimou            maria.dimou@cern.ch     http://cern.ch/dimou
CERN / IT              CH-1211 Geneva 23       Switzerland
Tel:+41227673356       Mob:+41754113248        Fax:+41227669820
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