- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 07:55:25 -0400
- To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>, business-of-linked-data-bold <business-of-linked-data-bold@googlegroups.com>
- Cc: "public-rww@w3.org" <public-rww@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <7aec6af4-d3bf-469e-d1ae-dbeb2b42890a@openlinksw.com>
On 8/24/16 3:52 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: > > > On 24 August 2016 at 04:17, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com > <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote: > > On 8/23/16 6:56 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: >> >> >> On 24 August 2016 at 00:28, Kingsley Idehen >> <kidehen@openlinksw.com <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote: >> >> On 8/23/16 5:36 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: >>> yes, i was able to create a file, nice! >>> >>> On 23 August 2016 at 20:43, Kingsley Idehen >>> <kidehen@openlinksw.com <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote: >>> >>> On 8/23/16 2:25 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 22 August 2016 at 14:49, Kingsley Idehen >>>> <kidehen@openlinksw.com >>>> <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 8/22/16 4:34 AM, Timothy Holborn wrote: >>>>> Kingsley, >>>>> >>>>> Most of the interesting open data related >>>>> platforms plug into Virtuoso. >>>> >>>> They support open standards. Virtuoso supports open >>>> standards. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think you need to step it up a bit, and am happy >>>>> to help, but am unsure of the best way to go about it. >>>> >>>> I am totally unsure of what Virtuoso has to add to >>>> this matter. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> If SoLiD is Virtuoso compatible, I think the >>>>> answer is bit of a no-brainer. Question >>>>> remains one of business systems, rather than >>>>> exclusively Tech. >>>> >>>> Virtuoso supports all the open standards covered by >>>> SoLiD, and some (e.g., WebID+TLS+Delegation). >>>> >>>> We need to speak clearly about these issues >>>> otherwise we have nothing but confusion. >>>> >>>> >>>> What will be really amazing is when Solid apps are >>>> tested to run on an openlink backend and vice versa. >>>>  >>> Melvin, >>> >>> So why don't I share a folder endpoint [1] and the you >>> try to use SoLiD to create a document in that folder? >>> Naturally, I would need to grant access to you via your >>> WebID (which I assume to be: >>> https://melvincarvalho.com/#me) . >>> >>> Links: >>> >>> [1] >>> http://kingsley.idehen.net/DAV/home/kidehen/Public/solid/ >>> <http://kingsley.idehen.net/DAV/home/kidehen/Public/solid/> >>> [2] >>> https://kingsley.idehen.net/DAV/home/kidehen/Public/solid/ >>> <https://kingsley.idehen.net/DAV/home/kidehen/Public/solid/> >>> [3] >>> http://kingsley.idehen.net/DAV/home/kidehen/Public/solid%2Cacl >>> <http://kingsley.idehen.net/DAV/home/kidehen/Public/solid%2Cacl> >>> -- ACL doc (your webid has access to this too!) >>> [4] https://linkeddata.uriburner.com/rdf-editor >>> <https://linkeddata.uriburner.com/rdf-editor> -- Editor >>> that can be used to compare experience re. creation of >>> document in the sample/qa folder. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Kingsley Idehen >>> Founder & CEO >>> OpenLink Software (Home Page: http://www.openlinksw.com) >>> >>> Medium Blog: https://medium.com/@kidehen >>> Blogspot Blog: http://kidehen.blogspot.com >>> Twitter Profile: https://twitter.com/kidehen >>> Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about >>> <https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about> >>> LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen >>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen> >>> Personal WebID: http://kingsley.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this >>> <http://kingsley.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this> >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed >>> to the Google Groups "Business Of Linked Data (BOLD)" >>> group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving >>> emails from it, send an email to >>> business-of-linked-data-bold+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:business-of-linked-data-bold+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. >>> For more options, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to >>> the Google Groups "Business Of Linked Data (BOLD)" group. To >>> unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>> it, send an email to >>> business-of-linked-data-bold+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:business-of-linked-data-bold+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >> >> Melvin, >> >> Does that imply things are fine re. SoLiD or not? >> >> One test is passing at least, which is a good sign! >> I think to say things are 'fine' we really need to develop a test >> suite and run tests. There may be other ways, but that seems >> to be tried and tested. > > Melvin, > > I am trying to avoid "OpenLink doesn't support SoLiD" cycles that > keep on reoccurring. > > Got it. But it requires testing and possibly some bug fixing. >  > > If there is a pattern that fails it should be identified and > demonstrated. > > This is where a test suite comes in handy. W3C working groups > typically require 1-3 years for this. I think we need a similar > process. There may be short cuts but it would normally require one > dedicated tester. W3C process != Practical Commercial process. Having worked on interop for more than 20+ years re., standards like SQL, ODBC, JDBC, ADO.NET, HTTP, and others, the process has more to do with willingness to collaborate than anything else. Given a server application (server) that implements standard X, there should be N number of client application (client) users willing enough to test interop as part of a practical QA process. Right now, the big issue is that interop gets scoped to the wrong levels. What do I mean by "wrong levels" ? The fact that this kind of testing gets lost in presumptive patterns rife with compilation and platform dependencies e.g., open source and all the modules required to be located and built. After that, testers then find out that they have to right code to perform basic interop. Interop should simply be about compliant client N talking to compliant server X. That's it. We don't need 6 months to pull that off, let alone 1-3 years. I am happy to perform interop with anyone (partner or competitor or customer) using the basic pattern outlined above. The end results are mutually beneficial, as they should be, when working with standards compliance. -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Founder & CEO OpenLink Software (Home Page: http://www.openlinksw.com) Medium Blog: https://medium.com/@kidehen Blogspot Blog: http://kidehen.blogspot.com Twitter Profile: https://twitter.com/kidehen Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen Personal WebID: http://kingsley.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this
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