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Re: How the father of the World Wide Web plans to reclaim it from Facebook and Google

From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 04:28:36 +0000
Message-ID: <CAM1Sok3eoOkjsJqfoEw_hyHL+y1MST_XZ4t7WpGSpqo02ceoyg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, business-of-linked-data-bold@googlegroups.com
Cc: "public-rww@w3.org" <public-rww@w3.org>
On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 at 12:19 Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:

> On 8/23/16 6:56 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>
> On 24 August 2016 at 00:28, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
> wrote:
>
> On 8/23/16 5:36 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>>
> yes, i was able to create a file, nice!
>>
>> On 23 August 2016 at 20:43, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 8/23/16 2:25 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>>>
>> On 22 August 2016 at 14:49, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 8/22/16 4:34 AM, Timothy Holborn wrote:
>>>>
>>> Kingsley,Â
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most of the interesting open data related platforms plug into Virtuoso.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They support open standards. Virtuoso supports open standards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think you need to step it up a bit, and am happy to help, but am
>>>> unsure of the best way to go about it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am totally unsure of what Virtuoso has to add to this matter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If SoLiD is Virtuoso compatible, I think the answer is bit of a
>>>> no-brainer.  Question remains one of business systems, rather than
>>>> exclusively Tech.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Virtuoso supports all the open standards covered by SoLiD, and some
>>>> (e.g., WebID+TLS+Delegation).
>>>>
>>>> We need to speak clearly about these issues otherwise we have nothing
>>>> but confusion.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What will be really amazing is when Solid apps are tested to run on an
>>> openlink backend and vice versa.
>>>
>>> Â
>>>
>>> Melvin,
>>>
>>> So why don't I share a folder endpoint [1] and the you try to use SoLiD
>>> to create a document in that folder? Naturally, I would need to grant
>>> access to you via your WebID (which I assume to be:
>>> https://melvincarvalho.com/#me) .
>>>
>>> Links:
>>>
>>> [1] http://kingsley.idehen.net/DAV/home/kidehen/Public/solid/
>>> [2] https://kingsley.idehen.net/DAV/home/kidehen/Public/solid/
>>> [3] http://kingsley.idehen.net/DAV/home/kidehen/Public/solid%2Cacl --
>>> ACL doc (your webid has access to this too!)
>>> [4] https://linkeddata.uriburner.com/rdf-editor -- Editor that can be
>>> used to compare experience re. creation of document in the sample/qa
>>> folder.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Kingsley Idehen	
>>> Founder & CEO
>>> OpenLink Software   (Home Page: http://www.openlinksw.com)
>>>
>>> Medium Blog: https://medium.com/@kidehen
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>> Melvin,
>>
>> Does that imply things are fine re. SoLiD or not?
>>
> One test is passing at least, which is a good sign!
>
> I think to say things are 'fine' we really need to develop a test suite
> and run tests.  There may be other ways, but that seems to be tried and
> tested.
>
> Melvin,
>
> I am trying to avoid "OpenLink doesn't support SoLiD" cycles that keep on
> reoccurring. If there is a pattern that fails it should be identified and
> demonstrated.
>
> As per this demo, my view point is simply as follows:
>
> [1] Start you Virtuoso instance
>
> [2] Perform RWW operations over HTTP using SoLiD patterns
>
> If something fails, it should be reported.
>
> Note my instance at idehen.net is a little unstable right now due to a
> plethora of QA activities on other fronts.
>
Melvin - installing the commercial version of virtuoso is a breeze.

So long as things go to plan, i'll have another instance up and running
soon.

Whilst i think it is v.good and v.important that several RWW / SoLiD builds
have been done (and i've been onto manu about at least supporting LDP in
bedrock) - i cannot see a better enterprise solution that is not only
available today, but has been market tested for many years through what we
know as (the) virtuoso ;)

Tim.H.

> --
> Regards,
>
> Kingsley Idehen	
> Founder & CEO
> OpenLink Software   (Home Page: http://www.openlinksw.com)
>
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>
>
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