Re: TPAC Plenary Wednesday - rww/ldp & webid

On 22 September 2012 13:07, Markus Sabadello <markus.sabadello@gmail.com>wrote:

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> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:39 PM, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <
> perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org> wrote:
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>> Excerpts from Kingsley Idehen's message of 2012-09-21 16:36:35 +0000:
>> > On 9/21/12 9:54 AM, Henry Story wrote:
>> > > On 21 Sep 2012, at 15:42, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> On 9/21/12 5:09 AM, Henry Story wrote:
>> > >>> 2. Hands on using tools the community has built
>> > >>>    * Make a WebID profile and certificate
>> > >>>    * build a group of all members present
>> > >>>    * give access to members of the group to some resources, Give
>> access to friends of members of the group to others, etc...
>> > >> Shouldn't we make this an interop level 0 item for the RWW community?
>> > > What do you mean? (I mean how do we make this an interop level 0
>> item?)
>> > I am referring to something like SWAT0 [1][2]. A variant that focuses on
>> > the functionality listed above which is a good baseline.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > It is true that we need to work on interoperability at this level. At
>> present I think we'll probably find different platforms do things
>> differently... But if we could demo it on even one server, then we can
>> bring up the interop issue...
>> >
>> > Demo on one server? We are dealing with the Web aren't we? There should
>> > be many interoperable servers that collectively make the point. As I
>> > keep on trying to tell you, this isn't solely about UI and/or UX. It's a
>> > composite of the aforementioned, combined with standards compliance
>> etc..
>> i find demos done by Markus Sabadello where he uses FreedomBoxes very
>> cool:
>> http://blog.projectdanube.org/2012/03/guruplugs-and-b-a-t-m-a-n/
>>
>> http://blog.projectdanube.org/2012/05/freedombox-at-the-internet-identity-workshop/
>>
>> i don't know if he comes for TPAC but i guess you could borrow his toys
>> to play with ;D
>>
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>
> No I won't be able to come.. :(
> But am always interested in trying new things with the FreedomBox.
> E.g. I just played with remoteStorage<https://github.com/pagekite/plugins-pyUnhosted>and
> PageKite <http://pagekite.net/> on the box.
> That's also what I want to demo at the next Internet Identity Workshop..
>
> If there's going to be an interop test for RWW, I think FreedomBox should
> definitely be part of it...
>

I think perhaps the easiest way for RWW and freedombox to do a baseline
interop is to support sever to server messaging via pingback.

What this means is:

The pingback relation goes into your profile and/or webfinger record :

rel="http://purl.org/net/pingback/to"  href="..."

you can then just have a simple (say php script) which accepts a message
and puts it into a users inbox

Once you can do server to server messages, you can pretty much do any kind
of notification system and the federated social web starts to become a
reality.


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> Markus
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