- From: Michiel de Jong <michiel@unhosted.org>
- Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 07:02:08 +0300
- To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
- Cc: public-rww <public-rww@w3.org>
Great idea! fwiw, when people talk about federation, they usually mean setting up application-specific decentralized hosting with server-to-server messaging. When you say 'the hyperlink solves this' i think you're talking at too low a level, i think it's more accurate to say 'Indie Web + rww + linked data solves it'. About pingback, i don't understand exactly what it does, but i think it is based on client-side certificates, so it can never replace OStatus or Wave, which are able to function without the need for such per-device state. So I think it should be considered a niche solution within the web, just like PGP is a niche solution (and not for that less valuable) within SMTP. Having said that, if people start owning their own rww servers, and we add some sort of real-time messaging to that, then i think on top of that combination you could basically build the same things as both OStatus and Apache Wave. On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote: > There seems to be a few 'Federation' Protocols out there. > > Two of which are: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OStatus > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Wave_Federation_Protocol > > Much of the discussion that goes on today in various project is oriented > around how it's possible to make heterogeneous systems Federate. > > So I was thinking about proposing working on a document something along the > lines of: > > 'The Web Federation Protocol' > > The document could contain some of the "deceptively simple" federation > protocols that we have working in the wild, such as linked data and > pingback. In particular, if we can get others to implement pingback (which > is normally less than a day's work), we can quickly develop an internet wide > messaging system. > > Some of you might think, 'that's missing the point the Web is already > federated via the URI (hyperlink) ', and there's certainly plenty of > evidence to support this. > > However, to date I'm not sure there exists a very good explanation, for > those that are trying to get a better understanding of the Web. > > Maybe we could put together a narrative, primer, or wiki article, to show > how the Read Write Web is already federated, and how it's possible to take > advantage, embrace and extend? > > Good idea / Bad idea ... any thoughts?
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