Re: Follow-up on the meetings on accessibility research with APA/RQTF and WAI-CooP

Hi, Shadi:

Sorry for the confusion.

For Personalization these two:
1.) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/personalization/> welcomes
2.) https://www.w3.org/TR/coga-usable/


For Spoken Presentation (AKA Pronunciation) these two:
1.) <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/pronunciation/> rather than the
2.) https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues



Shadi Abou-Zahra writes:
> Hi Janina,
> 
> I'm sorry, I'm a little lost. Can you provide the links that you would want
> us to add to the page for those who want further information?
> 
> Thanks,
>   Shadi
> 
> 
> On 08/09/2021 16:34, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > Hi, Shadi:
> > 
> > I'm perfectly open to solutions like what you suggest.
> > 
> > If I understand, something like the links provided on their own might be
> > enough?
> > 
> > My hope is to offer sufficient context, without constraining
> > proposals--except for the Pronunciation (AKA Spoken Presentation) HTML
> > parsing issue -- which we ran into at W3C's TPAC meetings last year when
> > we heard from the TAG in no uncertain terms to drop any thought of
> > updating HTML parsing. So, how to simplify, keep the invitation as open
> > as it can be, yet nudge people away from known nonstarters?
> > 
> > PS: Our Pronunciation TF suggests a better link for that work would be:
> > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/pronunciation/> rather than the
> > github README. I think the engineering divide between AT and browsers
> > link should stay, though.
> > 
> > You might note that the Personalization TF is actually posing no land
> > mines like those we see in Pronunciation, even though that work is
> > further advanced in the W3C standardization process, i.e. Module 1 is
> > about to be published as CR.
> > 
> > So, I'm absolutely open in principle and happy for any suggested ways to
> > resolve this.
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > Shadi Abou-Zahra writes:
> > > Hi Janina,
> > > 
> > > This is a lot of text and far more than I've usually noticed in call for
> > > papers. This actually nearly a submission :-) I'm wondering if there are
> > > other ways for doing this, maybe by adding some links to related work at W3C
> > > where people can find this type of information?
> > > 
> > > Best,
> > >    Shadi
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 08/09/2021 14:30, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > Carlos, All:
> > > > 
> > > > Below I offer a draft of language I would like to see in the
> > > > announcement we're discussing to amplify the "Personalization" and
> > > > "Pronunciation" items. Edits are welcome. I'm doing my best not to
> > > > prejudice potential work, but also to avoid proposals we already know
> > > > have no hope, e.g. anyone proposing to solve pronunciation with a "fix"
> > > > to HTML parsing will only waster our time.
> > > > 
> > > > <begin proposed language>
> > > > 
> > > > The W3C/WAI Accessible Platform Architectures (APA) Working group would also
> > > > welcome either implementing engineering or original research proposals in two
> > > > key areas of APA's current work.
> > > > 
> > > > *	APA's Personalization Task Force
> > > > 	<https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/personalization/> welcomes
> > > > work aimed at providing technological solutions to a variety of challenges
> > > > encountered by persons with disabilities with web technology, especially
> > > > (though not exclusively) challenges for persons with cognitive and learning
> > > > disabilities, many of which are described in this W3C Note publication
> > > > <https://www.w3.org/TR/coga-usable/>.
> > > > 
> > > > 2.)*	APA's Spoken Presentation Task Force is attempting to develop
> > > > standards based approaches, including user agent components, that could bring
> > > > consistency and predictability to TTS pronunciation of web based content
> > > > across user agents and operating environments, for languages both ancient and
> > > > modern (See <https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/blob/main/README.md>). Two
> > > > important points are highlighted for potential proposals in this area:
> > > > 
> > > > *	Any solution requiring changes to HTML parsers will not be accepted by
> > > > 	the industry anytime soon--possibly not for decades to come.
> > > > 
> > > > *	A significant engineering gap has emerged between the perceived needs
> > > > 	of assistive technology vendors vis a vis the browser vendors
> > > > in github issues as shown here: <https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues>
> > > > 
> > > > Carlos Duarte writes:
> > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Please find attached an updated call for participation, including updates
> > > > > to the list of topics (mostly to improve legibility) and the organizing
> > > > > committee with a better clarification of roles to ensure it raises no EC
> > > > > concerns about duplicate funding (through WAI-CooP and WAI-Guide projects).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Remember that we are still waiting for the official confirmation from APA
> > > > > about their co-organizer status.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Carlos
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Fri, 3 Sept 2021 at 19:27, Carlos Duarte <caduarte@campus.ul.pt> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > As promised, I've prepared a new version of the call for participation,
> > > > > > which I'm attaching to this email. The major changes include:
> > > > > > - The list of topics. Please check if there are relevant topics missing or
> > > > > > if you would prefer some to be rephrased
> > > > > > - Including the APA as a co-organizer of the event. The answers I got back
> > > > > > from you seem to point in this direction. But this call won't go public
> > > > > > until I get an official approval.
> > > > > > - Including Josh as one of the organizers (thanks for volunteering).
> > > > > > Please check if you would like a different affiliation displayed. And I
> > > > > > don't expect there will be a lot of effort involved. Right now, suggestions
> > > > > > for people to invite to the scientific committee are welcomed.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Wish you all a great weekend!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Carlos
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Fri, 3 Sept 2021 at 17:06, Joshue O'Connor <joconnor@w3.org> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hi Carlos and all,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Sounds good to me, and I'm happy to defer to your suggestion of a more
> > > > > > > terse overview.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > It would be great if you could expand on that a
> > > > > > > > > bit and submit it to the symposium and present it there. In this way
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > will not depend on someone else picking the topic, and you would
> > > > > > > ensure
> > > > > > > > > it gets exposure during the symposium!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Sounds good - I'll take an action to do that.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Please do feel free to let me know if you need help or any more
> > > > > > > assistance.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Have a good weekend all
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Josh
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Carlos Duarte wrote on 02/09/2021 16:39:
> > > > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Josh, thanks for volunteering for the scientific committee and for
> > > > > > > > suggesting the topics. As Shadi mentioned, it is fairly common to
> > > > > > > > include a list of topics in the calls for participation in this type of
> > > > > > > > event. So, yes, we can include such a list in the call, and I'll update
> > > > > > > > it tomorrow with additional topics that we found in our previous
> > > > > > > > analysis. Of course, I'll include Josh's and Jason's suggestions.
> > > > > > > > Janina, feel free to send additional topics.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Regarding the inclusion of explanatory information for the topics, I
> > > > > > > > honestly don't believe we should include it. In my opinion, not only
> > > > > > > > would it make the call too verbose, it might prevent people from
> > > > > > > > exploring other perspectives for the same topic in their contributions.
> > > > > > > > But let me take this chance to take advantage of your willingness to
> > > > > > > > write the explanations. It would be great if you could expand on that a
> > > > > > > > bit and submit it to the symposium and present it there. In this way
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > will not depend on someone else picking the topic, and you would ensure
> > > > > > > > it gets exposure during the symposium!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Tomorrow I'll send the updated call. In the meantime, I'll be happy to
> > > > > > > > read more suggestions.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > Carlos
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 1 Sept 2021 at 13:54, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net
> > > > > > > > <mailto:janina@rednote.net>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >       +Becky with her correct address. Please update your addressbooks as
> > > > > > > >       needed!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >       Thanks Josh, Shadi:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >       I like the list and agree that mixing in some additional topics
> > > > > > > would be
> > > > > > > >       perfectly fine. If this approach is agreeable, I'd like to provide a
> > > > > > > >       single explanatory link for a couple of the topics--where we already
> > > > > > > >       have work in progress in order to explain what the engineering
> > > > > > > >       roadblocks/opportunities are. On other topics that came from APA
> > > > > > > there's
> > > > > > > >       not even a conceptualizing overview yet, though we do expect some
> > > > > > > >       conversations at TPAC.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >       Best,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >       Janina
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >       Shadi Abou-Zahra writes:
> > > > > > > >        > Hi Josh, Carlos,
> > > > > > > >        >
> > > > > > > >        > Thanks for that suggestion Josh. I like the idea. I think it's
> > > > > > > >       common for
> > > > > > > >        > calls for papers to have suggested topics as "including but not
> > > > > > > >       limited to".
> > > > > > > >        > Carlos, maybe you found other hot topics in the analysis you did,
> > > > > > > >       to mix the
> > > > > > > >        > list topics a little more?
> > > > > > > >        >
> > > > > > > >        > Best,
> > > > > > > >        >   Shadi
> > > > > > > >        >
> > > > > > > >        >
> > > > > > > >        > On 01/09/2021 12:32, Joshue O'Connor wrote:
> > > > > > > >        > > Hi Carlos,
> > > > > > > >        > >
> > > > > > > >        > > [+ Scott Hollier, Research Questions lead w Jason White]
> > > > > > > >        > >
> > > > > > > >        > > It is good to hear from you, and it was a very interesting
> > > > > > > >       discussion.
> > > > > > > >        > > Thanks for the included workshop proposal. I've some items to
> > > > > > > >       feedback
> > > > > > > >        > > to you on. Firstly, while there is potential benefit of a
> > > > > > > >       tabula rasa,
> > > > > > > >        > > or blank sheet approach to finding new areas of accessibility
> > > > > > > >       related
> > > > > > > >        > > research - maybe it would be a good idea to include some
> > > > > > > initial
> > > > > > > >        > > suggested topics?
> > > > > > > >        > >
> > > > > > > >        > > This would set the scene for researchers, and give a sense for
> > > > > > > >       potential
> > > > > > > >        > > topics of interest but not limit them either. I would not want
> > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > >        > > presented as the 'only options'. I'm therefore going to suggest
> > > > > > > >       some
> > > > > > > >        > > topics below that do reflect the collected interests and
> > > > > > > current
> > > > > > > >        > > research questions underway in the Research Questions Task
> > > > > > > >       Force, as
> > > > > > > >        > > well as APA more broadly.
> > > > > > > >        > >
> > > > > > > >        > > They are (in no particular order):
> > > > > > > >        > >
> > > > > > > >        > > * Accessibility APIs: Future directions
> > > > > > > >        > > * Emerging technologies and user requirements: XR
> > > > > > > >       Accessibility, Natural
> > > > > > > >        > > language accessibility
> > > > > > > >        > > * XR Architectures: Future directions
> > > > > > > >        > > * Assistive technology, browsers and pronunciation
> > > > > > > >        > > * Personalization and accessibility
> > > > > > > >        > >
> > > > > > > >        > > If you like this approach and agree to these suggestions, I can
> > > > > > > >       write
> > > > > > > >        > > them more descriptively.
> > > > > > > >        > >
> > > > > > > >        > > Secondly, I would be very happy to help you (wearing an APA
> > > > > > > >       hat) with
> > > > > > > >        > > paper review and organisation as you need.
> > > > > > > >        > >
> > > > > > > >        > > Happy to hear your thoughts, and indeed input from others.
> > > > > > > >        > >
> > > > > > > >        > > With thanks
> > > > > > > >        > >
> > > > > > > >        > > Josh
> > > > > > > >        >
> > > > > > > >        > --
> > > > > > > >        > Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/
> > > > > > > >        > Accessibility Strategy and Technology Specialist
> > > > > > > >        > Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> > > > > > > >        > World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >       --
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >       Janina Sajka
> > > > > > > >       https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >       Linux Foundation Fellow
> > > > > > > >       Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >       The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative
> > > > > > > (WAI)
> > > > > > > >       Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures
> > > > > > > http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > *Carlos Duarte*
> > > > > > > > LASIGE, Faculdade de Ciências, Universidade de Lisboa
> > > > > > > > Web: https://www.di.fc.ul.pt/~cad/ <https://www.di.fc.ul.pt/%7Ecad/>
> > > > > > > > Twitter: @carlosapaduarte
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Emerging Web Technology Specialist/Accessibility (WAI/W3C)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > *Carlos Duarte*
> > > > > > LASIGE, Faculdade de Ciências, Universidade de Lisboa
> > > > > > Web: https://www.di.fc.ul.pt/~cad/
> > > > > > Twitter: @carlosapaduarte
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > *Carlos Duarte*
> > > > > LASIGE, Faculdade de Ciências, Universidade de Lisboa
> > > > > Web: https://www.di.fc.ul.pt/~cad/
> > > > > Twitter: @carlosapaduarte
> > > > 
> > > > > ---
> > > > > title: 'Shape the Future: Research and Development Questions in Digital
> > > > >     Accessibility'
> > > > > ---
> > > > > 
> > > > > Call for Submissions
> > > > > 
> > > > > The Web Accessibility Initiative - Communities of Practice
> > > > > ([WAI-CooP](https://www.w3.org/WAI/about/projects/wai-coop/)) Project
> > > > > and the W3C Accessible Platform Architectures
> > > > > ([APA](https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/)) invite researchers, practitioners,
> > > > > and people with disabilities to participate in an international online
> > > > > symposium exploring research challenges and opportunities in digital
> > > > > accessibility.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Symposium date: **10 November 2021**
> > > > > 
> > > > > Paper submission date: **6 October 2021**
> > > > > 
> > > > > Accepted contributions will be made available on the symposium page and
> > > > > will be open to discussion prior to the symposium through the WAI-CooP
> > > > > open forum \[link?\]. Authors of accepted contributions will be invited
> > > > > to participate as panelists in the symposium. Attendance to the
> > > > > symposium is open to anyone interested.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Introduction
> > > > > ============
> > > > > 
> > > > > This online symposium brings together researchers, academics, industry,
> > > > > government, and people with disabilities, to explore the current
> > > > > state-of-the-art in accessibility research, development, and practice to
> > > > > uncover pressing topics for future research and development.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Another goal of this symposium is to explore potential gaps between the
> > > > > topics discussed by researchers and practitioners. By increasing
> > > > > awareness to the challenges faced by all communities, collaborations
> > > > > could emerge and improve the current state of accessibility research and
> > > > > practice.
> > > > > 
> > > > > We welcome submissions that address, but are not limited to, the
> > > > > following topics:
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Application Programming Interfaces (APIs)
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Artificial Intelligence (AI)
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Assistive Technology
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Data Visualization
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Education and training
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Emerging technologies
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Evaluation, metrics and scoring
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Immersive Environments (XR)
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Machine Learning (ML)
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Multimodal Interfaces
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Natural Language Interfaces
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Personalization
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Pronunciation
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Remote Participation
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   User requirements
> > > > > 
> > > > > We invite position papers discussing these topics using real-life
> > > > > settings and raising current issues and needs for discussion. After the
> > > > > symposium, the WAI-CooP project will publish a report, consolidating the
> > > > > discussions and findings.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Important Dates
> > > > > ===============
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   **6 October 2021:** Deadline for submissions
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   **27 October 2021:** Author notifications
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   **7 November 2021: Deadline for registration**
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   **10 November 2021:** Online symposium event
> > > > > 
> > > > > Paper Submissions
> > > > > =================
> > > > > 
> > > > > We invite the submission of position papers of no more than 1500 words.
> > > > > We encourage concise contributions clearly explaining the:
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Problem addressed
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Relevant background
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Challenges
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Outcomes
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Future perspectives
> > > > > 
> > > > > Position papers must be submitted in the template provided, be valid
> > > > > HTML, and meet WCAG 2.1 Level AA.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Review Process
> > > > > ==============
> > > > > 
> > > > > Contributions will be reviewed by the Scientific Committee. Each paper
> > > > > will get at least two independent reviews for criteria including
> > > > > clarity, soundness, and relevance to the symposium. Papers will be
> > > > > accepted based on these criteria and space availability.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Logistics
> > > > > =========
> > > > > 
> > > > > This meeting will take place on the Zoom teleconference system with
> > > > > real-time captioning. Connection details will be sent by email to
> > > > > registered participants.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Registration
> > > > > ============
> > > > > 
> > > > > Participation is free, but registration is required by 7 November 2021.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Organizing Committee
> > > > > ====================
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   Chairs
> > > > > 
> > > > >       -   Carlos Duarte (LASIGE, Faculty of Sciences of the University of
> > > > >           Lisbon)
> > > > > 
> > > > >       -   Letícia Seixas Pereira (LASIGE, Faculty of Sciences of the
> > > > >           University of Lisbon)
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   APA Liaison
> > > > > 
> > > > >       -   Joshue O\'Connor (W3C/WAI)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Scientific Committee
> > > > > ====================
> > > > > 
> > > > > (Will be announced soon)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Organization
> > > > > ============
> > > > > 
> > > > > The "Shape the Future: Research and Development Questions in Digital
> > > > > Accessibility" research symposium is organized by the
> > > > > [WAI-CooP](https://www.w3.org/WAI/about/projects/wai-coop/) Project, an
> > > > > European Commission co-funded project, under the Horizon 2020 Program
> > > > > (101004794) and the W3C Accessible Platform Architectures
> > > > > ([APA](https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/)).
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/
> > > Accessibility Strategy and Technology Specialist
> > > Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> > > World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/
> Accessibility Strategy and Technology Specialist
> Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)

-- 

Janina Sajka
https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa

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