- From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 17:54:11 +0200
- To: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
- Cc: Carlos Duarte <caduarte@campus.ul.pt>, Joshue O'Connor <joconnor@w3.org>, group-apa-chairs@w3.org, public-rqtf@w3.org, Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org>, Letícia Pereira <lspereira@fc.ul.pt>
Hi Janina, I'm sorry, I'm a little lost. Can you provide the links that you would want us to add to the page for those who want further information? Thanks, Shadi On 08/09/2021 16:34, Janina Sajka wrote: > Hi, Shadi: > > I'm perfectly open to solutions like what you suggest. > > If I understand, something like the links provided on their own might be > enough? > > My hope is to offer sufficient context, without constraining > proposals--except for the Pronunciation (AKA Spoken Presentation) HTML > parsing issue -- which we ran into at W3C's TPAC meetings last year when > we heard from the TAG in no uncertain terms to drop any thought of > updating HTML parsing. So, how to simplify, keep the invitation as open > as it can be, yet nudge people away from known nonstarters? > > PS: Our Pronunciation TF suggests a better link for that work would be: > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/pronunciation/> rather than the > github README. I think the engineering divide between AT and browsers > link should stay, though. > > You might note that the Personalization TF is actually posing no land > mines like those we see in Pronunciation, even though that work is > further advanced in the W3C standardization process, i.e. Module 1 is > about to be published as CR. > > So, I'm absolutely open in principle and happy for any suggested ways to > resolve this. > > Janina > > Shadi Abou-Zahra writes: >> Hi Janina, >> >> This is a lot of text and far more than I've usually noticed in call for >> papers. This actually nearly a submission :-) I'm wondering if there are >> other ways for doing this, maybe by adding some links to related work at W3C >> where people can find this type of information? >> >> Best, >> Shadi >> >> >> On 08/09/2021 14:30, Janina Sajka wrote: >>> Carlos, All: >>> >>> Below I offer a draft of language I would like to see in the >>> announcement we're discussing to amplify the "Personalization" and >>> "Pronunciation" items. Edits are welcome. I'm doing my best not to >>> prejudice potential work, but also to avoid proposals we already know >>> have no hope, e.g. anyone proposing to solve pronunciation with a "fix" >>> to HTML parsing will only waster our time. >>> >>> <begin proposed language> >>> >>> The W3C/WAI Accessible Platform Architectures (APA) Working group would also >>> welcome either implementing engineering or original research proposals in two >>> key areas of APA's current work. >>> >>> * APA's Personalization Task Force >>> <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/personalization/> welcomes >>> work aimed at providing technological solutions to a variety of challenges >>> encountered by persons with disabilities with web technology, especially >>> (though not exclusively) challenges for persons with cognitive and learning >>> disabilities, many of which are described in this W3C Note publication >>> <https://www.w3.org/TR/coga-usable/>. >>> >>> 2.)* APA's Spoken Presentation Task Force is attempting to develop >>> standards based approaches, including user agent components, that could bring >>> consistency and predictability to TTS pronunciation of web based content >>> across user agents and operating environments, for languages both ancient and >>> modern (See <https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/blob/main/README.md>). Two >>> important points are highlighted for potential proposals in this area: >>> >>> * Any solution requiring changes to HTML parsers will not be accepted by >>> the industry anytime soon--possibly not for decades to come. >>> >>> * A significant engineering gap has emerged between the perceived needs >>> of assistive technology vendors vis a vis the browser vendors >>> in github issues as shown here: <https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues> >>> >>> Carlos Duarte writes: >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> Please find attached an updated call for participation, including updates >>>> to the list of topics (mostly to improve legibility) and the organizing >>>> committee with a better clarification of roles to ensure it raises no EC >>>> concerns about duplicate funding (through WAI-CooP and WAI-Guide projects). >>>> >>>> Remember that we are still waiting for the official confirmation from APA >>>> about their co-organizer status. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Carlos >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, 3 Sept 2021 at 19:27, Carlos Duarte <caduarte@campus.ul.pt> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> As promised, I've prepared a new version of the call for participation, >>>>> which I'm attaching to this email. The major changes include: >>>>> - The list of topics. Please check if there are relevant topics missing or >>>>> if you would prefer some to be rephrased >>>>> - Including the APA as a co-organizer of the event. The answers I got back >>>>> from you seem to point in this direction. But this call won't go public >>>>> until I get an official approval. >>>>> - Including Josh as one of the organizers (thanks for volunteering). >>>>> Please check if you would like a different affiliation displayed. And I >>>>> don't expect there will be a lot of effort involved. Right now, suggestions >>>>> for people to invite to the scientific committee are welcomed. >>>>> >>>>> Wish you all a great weekend! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Carlos >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 3 Sept 2021 at 17:06, Joshue O'Connor <joconnor@w3.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Carlos and all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sounds good to me, and I'm happy to defer to your suggestion of a more >>>>>> terse overview. >>>>>> >>>>>>> It would be great if you could expand on that a >>>>>>>> bit and submit it to the symposium and present it there. In this way >>>>>> you >>>>>>>> will not depend on someone else picking the topic, and you would >>>>>> ensure >>>>>>>> it gets exposure during the symposium! >>>>>> >>>>>> Sounds good - I'll take an action to do that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please do feel free to let me know if you need help or any more >>>>>> assistance. >>>>>> >>>>>> Have a good weekend all >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh >>>>>> >>>>>> Carlos Duarte wrote on 02/09/2021 16:39: >>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh, thanks for volunteering for the scientific committee and for >>>>>>> suggesting the topics. As Shadi mentioned, it is fairly common to >>>>>>> include a list of topics in the calls for participation in this type of >>>>>>> event. So, yes, we can include such a list in the call, and I'll update >>>>>>> it tomorrow with additional topics that we found in our previous >>>>>>> analysis. Of course, I'll include Josh's and Jason's suggestions. >>>>>>> Janina, feel free to send additional topics. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regarding the inclusion of explanatory information for the topics, I >>>>>>> honestly don't believe we should include it. In my opinion, not only >>>>>>> would it make the call too verbose, it might prevent people from >>>>>>> exploring other perspectives for the same topic in their contributions. >>>>>>> But let me take this chance to take advantage of your willingness to >>>>>>> write the explanations. It would be great if you could expand on that a >>>>>>> bit and submit it to the symposium and present it there. In this way >>>>>> you >>>>>>> will not depend on someone else picking the topic, and you would ensure >>>>>>> it gets exposure during the symposium! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tomorrow I'll send the updated call. In the meantime, I'll be happy to >>>>>>> read more suggestions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Carlos >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 1 Sept 2021 at 13:54, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net >>>>>>> <mailto:janina@rednote.net>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +Becky with her correct address. Please update your addressbooks as >>>>>>> needed! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Josh, Shadi: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I like the list and agree that mixing in some additional topics >>>>>> would be >>>>>>> perfectly fine. If this approach is agreeable, I'd like to provide a >>>>>>> single explanatory link for a couple of the topics--where we already >>>>>>> have work in progress in order to explain what the engineering >>>>>>> roadblocks/opportunities are. On other topics that came from APA >>>>>> there's >>>>>>> not even a conceptualizing overview yet, though we do expect some >>>>>>> conversations at TPAC. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Janina >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Shadi Abou-Zahra writes: >>>>>>> > Hi Josh, Carlos, >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Thanks for that suggestion Josh. I like the idea. I think it's >>>>>>> common for >>>>>>> > calls for papers to have suggested topics as "including but not >>>>>>> limited to". >>>>>>> > Carlos, maybe you found other hot topics in the analysis you did, >>>>>>> to mix the >>>>>>> > list topics a little more? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Best, >>>>>>> > Shadi >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On 01/09/2021 12:32, Joshue O'Connor wrote: >>>>>>> > > Hi Carlos, >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > [+ Scott Hollier, Research Questions lead w Jason White] >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > It is good to hear from you, and it was a very interesting >>>>>>> discussion. >>>>>>> > > Thanks for the included workshop proposal. I've some items to >>>>>>> feedback >>>>>>> > > to you on. Firstly, while there is potential benefit of a >>>>>>> tabula rasa, >>>>>>> > > or blank sheet approach to finding new areas of accessibility >>>>>>> related >>>>>>> > > research - maybe it would be a good idea to include some >>>>>> initial >>>>>>> > > suggested topics? >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > This would set the scene for researchers, and give a sense for >>>>>>> potential >>>>>>> > > topics of interest but not limit them either. I would not want >>>>>> them >>>>>>> > > presented as the 'only options'. I'm therefore going to suggest >>>>>>> some >>>>>>> > > topics below that do reflect the collected interests and >>>>>> current >>>>>>> > > research questions underway in the Research Questions Task >>>>>>> Force, as >>>>>>> > > well as APA more broadly. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > They are (in no particular order): >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > * Accessibility APIs: Future directions >>>>>>> > > * Emerging technologies and user requirements: XR >>>>>>> Accessibility, Natural >>>>>>> > > language accessibility >>>>>>> > > * XR Architectures: Future directions >>>>>>> > > * Assistive technology, browsers and pronunciation >>>>>>> > > * Personalization and accessibility >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > If you like this approach and agree to these suggestions, I can >>>>>>> write >>>>>>> > > them more descriptively. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Secondly, I would be very happy to help you (wearing an APA >>>>>>> hat) with >>>>>>> > > paper review and organisation as you need. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Happy to hear your thoughts, and indeed input from others. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > With thanks >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Josh >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>> > Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ >>>>>>> > Accessibility Strategy and Technology Specialist >>>>>>> > Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >>>>>>> > World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Janina Sajka >>>>>>> https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Linux Foundation Fellow >>>>>>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative >>>>>> (WAI) >>>>>>> Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/wai/apa >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> *Carlos Duarte* >>>>>>> LASIGE, Faculdade de Ciências, Universidade de Lisboa >>>>>>> Web: https://www.di.fc.ul.pt/~cad/ <https://www.di.fc.ul.pt/%7Ecad/> >>>>>>> Twitter: @carlosapaduarte >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Emerging Web Technology Specialist/Accessibility (WAI/W3C) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Carlos Duarte* >>>>> LASIGE, Faculdade de Ciências, Universidade de Lisboa >>>>> Web: https://www.di.fc.ul.pt/~cad/ >>>>> Twitter: @carlosapaduarte >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Carlos Duarte* >>>> LASIGE, Faculdade de Ciências, Universidade de Lisboa >>>> Web: https://www.di.fc.ul.pt/~cad/ >>>> Twitter: @carlosapaduarte >>> >>>> --- >>>> title: 'Shape the Future: Research and Development Questions in Digital >>>> Accessibility' >>>> --- >>>> >>>> Call for Submissions >>>> >>>> The Web Accessibility Initiative - Communities of Practice >>>> ([WAI-CooP](https://www.w3.org/WAI/about/projects/wai-coop/)) Project >>>> and the W3C Accessible Platform Architectures >>>> ([APA](https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/)) invite researchers, practitioners, >>>> and people with disabilities to participate in an international online >>>> symposium exploring research challenges and opportunities in digital >>>> accessibility. >>>> >>>> Symposium date: **10 November 2021** >>>> >>>> Paper submission date: **6 October 2021** >>>> >>>> Accepted contributions will be made available on the symposium page and >>>> will be open to discussion prior to the symposium through the WAI-CooP >>>> open forum \[link?\]. Authors of accepted contributions will be invited >>>> to participate as panelists in the symposium. Attendance to the >>>> symposium is open to anyone interested. >>>> >>>> Introduction >>>> ============ >>>> >>>> This online symposium brings together researchers, academics, industry, >>>> government, and people with disabilities, to explore the current >>>> state-of-the-art in accessibility research, development, and practice to >>>> uncover pressing topics for future research and development. >>>> >>>> Another goal of this symposium is to explore potential gaps between the >>>> topics discussed by researchers and practitioners. By increasing >>>> awareness to the challenges faced by all communities, collaborations >>>> could emerge and improve the current state of accessibility research and >>>> practice. >>>> >>>> We welcome submissions that address, but are not limited to, the >>>> following topics: >>>> >>>> - Application Programming Interfaces (APIs) >>>> >>>> - Artificial Intelligence (AI) >>>> >>>> - Assistive Technology >>>> >>>> - Data Visualization >>>> >>>> - Education and training >>>> >>>> - Emerging technologies >>>> >>>> - Evaluation, metrics and scoring >>>> >>>> - Immersive Environments (XR) >>>> >>>> - Machine Learning (ML) >>>> >>>> - Multimodal Interfaces >>>> >>>> - Natural Language Interfaces >>>> >>>> - Personalization >>>> >>>> - Pronunciation >>>> >>>> - Remote Participation >>>> >>>> - User requirements >>>> >>>> We invite position papers discussing these topics using real-life >>>> settings and raising current issues and needs for discussion. After the >>>> symposium, the WAI-CooP project will publish a report, consolidating the >>>> discussions and findings. >>>> >>>> Important Dates >>>> =============== >>>> >>>> - **6 October 2021:** Deadline for submissions >>>> >>>> - **27 October 2021:** Author notifications >>>> >>>> - **7 November 2021: Deadline for registration** >>>> >>>> - **10 November 2021:** Online symposium event >>>> >>>> Paper Submissions >>>> ================= >>>> >>>> We invite the submission of position papers of no more than 1500 words. >>>> We encourage concise contributions clearly explaining the: >>>> >>>> - Problem addressed >>>> >>>> - Relevant background >>>> >>>> - Challenges >>>> >>>> - Outcomes >>>> >>>> - Future perspectives >>>> >>>> Position papers must be submitted in the template provided, be valid >>>> HTML, and meet WCAG 2.1 Level AA. >>>> >>>> Review Process >>>> ============== >>>> >>>> Contributions will be reviewed by the Scientific Committee. Each paper >>>> will get at least two independent reviews for criteria including >>>> clarity, soundness, and relevance to the symposium. Papers will be >>>> accepted based on these criteria and space availability. >>>> >>>> Logistics >>>> ========= >>>> >>>> This meeting will take place on the Zoom teleconference system with >>>> real-time captioning. Connection details will be sent by email to >>>> registered participants. >>>> >>>> Registration >>>> ============ >>>> >>>> Participation is free, but registration is required by 7 November 2021. >>>> >>>> Organizing Committee >>>> ==================== >>>> >>>> - Chairs >>>> >>>> - Carlos Duarte (LASIGE, Faculty of Sciences of the University of >>>> Lisbon) >>>> >>>> - Letícia Seixas Pereira (LASIGE, Faculty of Sciences of the >>>> University of Lisbon) >>>> >>>> - APA Liaison >>>> >>>> - Joshue O\'Connor (W3C/WAI) >>>> >>>> Scientific Committee >>>> ==================== >>>> >>>> (Will be announced soon) >>>> >>>> Organization >>>> ============ >>>> >>>> The "Shape the Future: Research and Development Questions in Digital >>>> Accessibility" research symposium is organized by the >>>> [WAI-CooP](https://www.w3.org/WAI/about/projects/wai-coop/) Project, an >>>> European Commission co-funded project, under the Horizon 2020 Program >>>> (101004794) and the W3C Accessible Platform Architectures >>>> ([APA](https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/)). >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ >> Accessibility Strategy and Technology Specialist >> Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >> World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) > -- Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ Accessibility Strategy and Technology Specialist Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
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