RE: RAUR: New use case for total conversation clarification

Thank you, Josh. Do you recall what the issues were? I suspect part of it (probably my fault) was a lack of clarity about what capabilities the ITU was encouraging in its definitions.

From: Joshue O Connor <joconnor@w3.org>
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 7:33 AM
To: White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org>
Cc: RQTF <public-rqtf@w3.org>; group-apa-chairs@w3.org
Subject: Re: RAUR: New use case for total conversation clarification

Hi Jason,

[+ APA chairs]

On reflection - I'm thinking to put this into a holding pattern for the moment. I'm also remembering Janina had some reservations about this, and I'd like to discuss this with her before inputting into the draft.

We can discuss when we next meet, thanks.

Josh


White, Jason J<mailto:jjwhite@ets.org>
Thursday 8 October 2020 14:14
Here is a description of a "total conversation" service, with a link to the relevant ITU document:
https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-T/studygroups/com16/accessibility/Pages/conversation.aspx<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.itu.int%2Fen%2FITU-T%2Fstudygroups%2Fcom16%2Faccessibility%2FPages%2Fconversation.aspx&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C0cf3632a8bce458be00308d86ea28d1c%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637380991718646444&sdata=qZp3TE%2FltB5i8UnL3lr1JcssvKmoYWDYs3ZWYtwVuxU%3D&reserved=0>

The distinctive feature appears to be the combination of voice, video, and real-time text (RTT) in the same real-time session.

I would be interested in ideas as to what the most persuasive use cases are, and how we should characterize the user need. For example, one advantage is that the participants can make use of all three communication modes without having to restart the RTC session and can freely mix voice/video/RTT as desired.

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Subject: RAUR: New use case for total conversation clarification

Hi all,

This maybe one for Jason but I'm looking at the use case for Total Conversation in my notes of actionable changes to RAUR [1]

I'm a little unsure of how to frame this - should it be for example:

DRAFT User Need for Total Conversation: A user needs to engage real-time text, voice and video in a single session in various combinations.

Tbh, I'm not totally clear what that means? This also relates to the issue #42 but the discussion seems rather circular.

Any input appreciated, thanks

Josh

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Joshue O Connor<mailto:joconnor@w3.org>
Thursday 8 October 2020 14:00
Hi all,

This maybe one for Jason but I'm looking at the use case for Total Conversation in my notes of actionable changes to RAUR [1]

I'm a little unsure of how to frame this - should it be for example:

DRAFT User Need for Total Conversation: A user needs to engage real-time text, voice and video in a single session in various combinations.

Tbh, I'm not totally clear what that means? This also relates to the issue #42 but the discussion seems rather circular.

Any input appreciated, thanks

Josh

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