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Re: CAPTCHA and Webvisum

From: White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org>
Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 12:07:19 +0000
To: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, "public-rqtf@w3.org" <public-rqtf@w3.org>
Message-ID: <154516B1-BFD6-4892-B5CC-8CA5F774F044@ets.org>
Hi Janina,

Based on what I recall reading on mailing lists, my impression is that it's now unmaintained, and, being proprietary software, won't be taken up for further development. However, there's a more recent, similar tool that was mentioned on a mailing list (and I can't remember which list). I can attempt to track down the details, if they're relevant.

´╗┐On 5/9/19, 07:59, "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> wrote:

    The below thread reminds me of an automated CAPTCHA solver many of us
    used to use. Anyone still able to get Webvisum to reliably solve visual
    CAPTCHA challenges?

    According to the below a developer active on the Orca list is going to try
    and get it certified for current Firefox.

    So, how come we didn't even remember to mention it in our paper? It
    never even came up in discussion, afaik.

    Would it be traitorous to mention it? I suspect it belongs there, in
    among all the tools that can crack visual CAPTCHA.

    Thoughts?

    Janina

    Didier Spaier writes:
    > Hello,
    >
    > Being an add-on it needs to be signed according to the new Mozilla policy.
    >
    > I requested an invitation and will investigate further.
    >
    > Best,
    >
    > Didier
    >
    > On 09/05/2019 10:57, Mallard wrote:
    > > But does Webvisum still work? I was under the impression that it didn't.
    > >
    > >
    > > I have an account, but haven't reinstalled it, because it no longer works in later versions of Firefox (after version 52.x, I think).
    > >
    > >
    > > Ciao,
    > >
    > > Ollie
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Il 07/05/2019 18:56, Jude DaShiell ha scritto:
    > >> yes, you need an invite code to create an account.  So if someone with a
    > >> webvisum account knows you you can ask them to send you an invite code
    > >> and then use that to start creating your webvisum account.
    > >> This restriction happened since spam artists started abusing the
    > >> service.
    > >>
    > >> On Tue, 7 May 2019, Jace Kattalakis via orca-list wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 12:21:55
    > >>> From: Jace Kattalakis via orca-list <orca-list@gnome.org>
    > >>> Reply-To: Jace Kattalakis <khalfang1366@gmail.com>
    > >>> To: orca-list@gnome.org
    > >>> Subject: Re: [orca-list] Semi-OT: Other Orca compatible browsers
    > >>>
    > >>> I loked into webvisum, but don't I need an account and such for it? Looking at
    > >>> the site it seems so.....
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>> Also Waterfox is still a FF derivative though, I like Waterfox but that still
    > >>> got broken when Mozilla broke addons
    > >>>
    > >>> On 07/05/2019 14:26, Jude DaShiell wrote:
    > >>>> I've heard waterfox with webvisum add-on works well enough in linux so
    > >>>> the webvisum add-on can work in linux.
    > >>>> https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnashcentral.duckdns.org%2Fprojects%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485712781&amp;sdata=Dn46HIaCKHkWbbulocQpSz%2FFhOKgpEJjZxcmz%2FdXYSE%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > >>>> would be a starting url and the add-on is on that page that works for
    > >>>> linux.
    > >>>> On Tue, 7 May 2019, Jace
    > >>>> Kattalakis
    > >>>> via orca-list wrote:
    > >>>>
    > >>>>> Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 08:31:56
    > >>>>> From: Jace Kattalakis via orca-list <orca-list@gnome.org>
    > >>>>> Reply-To: Jace Kattalakis <khalfang1366@gmail.com>
    > >>>>> To: orca-list@gnome.org
    > >>>>> Subject: [orca-list] Semi-OT: Other Orca compatible browsers
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> As the title says, any other browsers that are Orca compatible, after
    > >>>>> Mozilla's recent antics I'm looking for a replacement that works fine with
    > >>>>> Orca.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> Jace
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> _______________________________________________
    > >>>>> orca-list mailing list
    > >>>>> orca-list@gnome.org
    > >>>>> https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.gnome.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Forca-list&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485722790&amp;sdata=GYwdIhaYXK%2B65w8YCLwv15%2Frd%2BVh3URTthrrhIovJM4%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > >>>>> Orca wiki: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FProjects%2FOrca&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485722790&amp;sdata=kX9%2BobN25kREToYI%2BHZjNfuS3TPyREhKM0ClmyAG0Hg%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > >>>>> Orca documentation: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.gnome.org%2Fusers%2Forca%2Fstable%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485722790&amp;sdata=vdsDjJ5neAYfzN0tEVA9Ej5RzvAc9XGK4CugpZ1knk8%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > >>>>> GNOME Universal Access guide:
    > >>>>> https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.gnome.org%2Fusers%2Fgnome-help%2Fstable%2Fa11y.html&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485722790&amp;sdata=taZSxCW9OKFBEp4V%2BodZ%2FG7Cr48xNDUrQW2OwaLrnac%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > >>>>> Log bugs and feature requests at https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbugzilla.gnome.org&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485722790&amp;sdata=y2VTr%2BGfG7yS%2BFbFF5FtRpRyiZLcY%2F%2F6BujUP9aYJto%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>> _______________________________________________
    > >>> orca-list mailing list
    > >>> orca-list@gnome.org
    > >>> https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.gnome.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Forca-list&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485722790&amp;sdata=GYwdIhaYXK%2B65w8YCLwv15%2Frd%2BVh3URTthrrhIovJM4%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > >>> Orca wiki: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FProjects%2FOrca&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485722790&amp;sdata=kX9%2BobN25kREToYI%2BHZjNfuS3TPyREhKM0ClmyAG0Hg%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > >>> Orca documentation: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.gnome.org%2Fusers%2Forca%2Fstable%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485722790&amp;sdata=vdsDjJ5neAYfzN0tEVA9Ej5RzvAc9XGK4CugpZ1knk8%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > >>> GNOME Universal Access guide:
    > >>> https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.gnome.org%2Fusers%2Fgnome-help%2Fstable%2Fa11y.html&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485722790&amp;sdata=taZSxCW9OKFBEp4V%2BodZ%2FG7Cr48xNDUrQW2OwaLrnac%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > >>> Log bugs and feature requests at https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbugzilla.gnome.org&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485722790&amp;sdata=y2VTr%2BGfG7yS%2BFbFF5FtRpRyiZLcY%2F%2F6BujUP9aYJto%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > > _______________________________________________
    > > orca-list mailing list
    > > orca-list@gnome.org
    > > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.gnome.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Forca-list&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485722790&amp;sdata=GYwdIhaYXK%2B65w8YCLwv15%2Frd%2BVh3URTthrrhIovJM4%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > > Orca wiki: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FProjects%2FOrca&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485722790&amp;sdata=kX9%2BobN25kREToYI%2BHZjNfuS3TPyREhKM0ClmyAG0Hg%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > > Orca documentation: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.gnome.org%2Fusers%2Forca%2Fstable%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485722790&amp;sdata=vdsDjJ5neAYfzN0tEVA9Ej5RzvAc9XGK4CugpZ1knk8%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > > GNOME Universal Access guide: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.gnome.org%2Fusers%2Fgnome-help%2Fstable%2Fa11y.html&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485722790&amp;sdata=taZSxCW9OKFBEp4V%2BodZ%2FG7Cr48xNDUrQW2OwaLrnac%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > > Log bugs and feature requests at https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbugzilla.gnome.org&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485722790&amp;sdata=y2VTr%2BGfG7yS%2BFbFF5FtRpRyiZLcY%2F%2F6BujUP9aYJto%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > >
    > _______________________________________________
    > orca-list mailing list
    > orca-list@gnome.org
    > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.gnome.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Forca-list&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485722790&amp;sdata=GYwdIhaYXK%2B65w8YCLwv15%2Frd%2BVh3URTthrrhIovJM4%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > Orca wiki: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FProjects%2FOrca&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485732795&amp;sdata=h8UjhrHLQdDFa6WzEZI2SyEFCBJE5jbDl0vmZcBnqZA%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > Orca documentation: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.gnome.org%2Fusers%2Forca%2Fstable%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485732795&amp;sdata=8EYKvRGLppnUusHCtUVIVV6OZp%2BlmLS96W6qmIoX4hk%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > GNOME Universal Access guide: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.gnome.org%2Fusers%2Fgnome-help%2Fstable%2Fa11y.html&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485732795&amp;sdata=6lIYb4rdDEpNupCS%2F995lFCDw1o7csWeoT6C5tpWV3M%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > Log bugs and feature requests at https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbugzilla.gnome.org&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C53fa92b4e2704459a39608d6d475bc7f%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636929999485732795&amp;sdata=%2FYcmGiqXJkx20mGAAkY4iZ%2FrxMtlG7iw894PEYDKLRA%3D&amp;reserved=0

    --

    Janina Sajka

    Linux Foundation Fellow
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