- From: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:10:28 -0400
- To: Axel Polleres <axel.polleres@deri.org>
- cc: "RIF (E-mail)" <public-rif-wg@w3.org>
> I think we might want to apply the restrictions for variable names, > profile names and prefixes to NCNames also in > the XML syntax. This does not restrict the expressivity of the > language and thus is IMO not a problem. In general: Is there some new information here that motivates revisiting these decision? Variable names: I don't think NCNames are a good match here. I expect people to want to support spaces in variables, for instance. In a PS, you can add some sort of quoting. Profile names: We have profile names? I don't remember them. Where are they in the syntax? Prefixes: I'm pretty sure these don't occur in the XML. -- Sandro > Opinions? > > Thanks, > Axel > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Carlos Dam=E1sio <cd@di.fct.unl.pt> > > Date: 21 September 2009 14:28:21 GMT+01:00 > > To: "Polleres, Axel" <axel.polleres@deri.org> > > Cc: <public-rif-comments@w3.org> > > Subject: Re: EBNF grammar of presentation syntax > > > > Dear Axel, > > > > I acknowledge receipt of the email and agree with the (partial) > > solution. > > This is the simple and natural correction, and believe general enough > > for most purposes. > > > > However, notice that in this way is not possible to use arbitrary > > UNICODESTRINGs in names, NCNames only > > (some sentences in the documents produced by the WG assume general > > strings). > > So, there are some documents that can be expressed in the exchange > > syntax (i.e. XML) which cannot be represented in the > > presentation syntax. I don't know if this is a problem or not. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Carlos Viegas Dam=E1sio > > > > > > > > Em 2009/09/19, =E0s 13:50, Axel Polleres escreveu: > > > > > Dear Carlos, > > > > > > Thanks for spotting this. We have updated the EBNF productions in > > > RIF FLD and BLD to only > > > allow NCNames (instead of arbitrary unicode strings) for localnames, > > > Prefix names, > > > Variable names and Profiles names, cf. [1,2,3] > > > > > > Please acknowledge receipt of this email to = > <mailto:public-rif-comments@w3.org > > > > > > > (replying to this email should suffice). In your acknowledgment > > > please let us > > > know whether or not you are satisfied with the working group's > > > response to your > > > comment. > > > > > > with best regards, > > > Axel > > > > > > 1. = > http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/FLD#EBNF_Grammar_for_the_Presentation_Sy= > ntax_of_RIF-FLD > > > 2. = > http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/BLD#EBNF_Grammar_for_the_Presentation_Sy= > ntax_of_RIF-BLD_.28Informative.29 > > > 3. = > http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/DTB#Shortcuts_for_Constants_in_RIF.27s_P= > resentation_Syntax > > > > > > -- > > > Dr. Axel Polleres > > > Digital Enterprise Research Institute, National University of > > > Ireland, Galway > > > email: axel.polleres@deri.org url: http://www.polleres.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --=20 > Dr. Axel Polleres > Digital Enterprise Research Institute, National University of Ireland, =20= > > Galway > email: axel.polleres@deri.org url: http://www.polleres.net/ > > > > > --Apple-Mail-22-355523761 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Type: text/html; > charset=iso-8859-1 > > <html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = > -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; = > "><div>Dear all,</div><div><br></div><div>I think we might want to apply = > the restrictions for variable names, profile names and prefixes to = > NCNames also in </div><div>the XML syntax. This does not = > restrict the expressivity of the language and thus is IMO not a = > problem.</div><div><br></div><div>Opinions? </div><div><br></div><div= > >Thanks,</div><div>Axel = > </div><div><div><div><br></div><div><div><br><div>Begin forwarded = > message:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote = > type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = > margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span = > style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, = > 1);"><b>From: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; = > font-size:medium;">Carlos Dam=E1sio <<a = > href=3D"mailto:cd@di.fct.unl.pt">cd@di.fct.unl.pt</a>><br></span></div>= > <div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = > margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; = > font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>Date: </b></span><span = > style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">21 September 2009 = > 14:28:21 GMT+01:00<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = > margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span = > style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, = > 1);"><b>To: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; = > font-size:medium;">"Polleres, Axel" <<a = > href=3D"mailto:axel.polleres@deri.org">axel.polleres@deri.org</a>><br><= > /span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = > margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span = > style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, = > 1);"><b>Cc: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; = > font-size:medium;"><<a = > href=3D"mailto:public-rif-comments@w3.org">public-rif-comments@w3.org</a>&= > gt;<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = > margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span = > style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, = > 1);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; = > font-size:medium;"><b>Re: EBNF grammar of presentation = > syntax</b><br></span></div><br> > <div> > <!-- Converted from text/plain format --><p><font size=3D"2">Dear = > Axel,<br> > <br> > I acknowledge receipt of the email and agree with the = > (partial) <br> > solution.<br> > This is the simple and natural correction, and believe general = > enough <br> > for most purposes.<br> > <br> > However, notice that in this way is not possible to use = > arbitrary <br> > UNICODESTRINGs in names, NCNames only<br> > (some sentences in the documents produced by the WG assume = > general <br> > strings).<br> > So, there are some documents that can be expressed in the = > exchange <br> > syntax (i.e. XML) which cannot be represented in the<br> > presentation syntax. I don't know if this is a problem or not.<br> > <br> > Best regards,<br> > <br> > Carlos Viegas Dam=E1sio<br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > Em 2009/09/19, =E0s 13:50, Axel Polleres escreveu:<br> > <br> > > Dear Carlos,<br> > ><br> > > Thanks for spotting this. We have updated the EBNF productions = > in <br> > > RIF FLD and BLD to only<br> > > allow NCNames (instead of arbitrary unicode strings) for = > localnames, <br> > > Prefix names,<br> > > Variable names and Profiles names, cf. [1,2,3]<br> > ><br> > > Please acknowledge receipt of this email to <<a = > href=3D"mailto:public-rif-comments@w3.org">mailto:public-rif-comments@w3.o= > rg</a> <br> > > ><br> > > (replying to this email should suffice). In your = > acknowledgment <br> > > please let us<br> > > know whether or not you are satisfied with the working = > group's <br> > > response to your<br> > > comment.<br> > ><br> > > with best regards,<br> > > Axel<br> > ><br> > > 1. <a = > href=3D"http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/FLD#EBNF_Grammar_for_the_Present= > ation_Syntax_of_RIF-FLD">http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/FLD#EBNF_Gramma= > r_for_the_Presentation_Syntax_of_RIF-FLD</a><br> > > 2. <a = > href=3D"http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/BLD#EBNF_Grammar_for_the_Present= > ation_Syntax_of_RIF-BLD_.28Informative.29">http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wi= > ki/BLD#EBNF_Grammar_for_the_Presentation_Syntax_of_RIF-BLD_.28Informative.= > 29</a><br> > > 3. <a = > href=3D"http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/DTB#Shortcuts_for_Constants_in_R= > IF.27s_Presentation_Syntax">http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/DTB#Shortcut= > s_for_Constants_in_RIF.27s_Presentation_Syntax</a><br> > ><br> > > --<br> > > Dr. Axel Polleres<br> > > Digital Enterprise Research Institute, National University = > of <br> > > Ireland, Galway<br> > > email: <a = > href=3D"mailto:axel.polleres@deri.org">axel.polleres@deri.org</a> = > url: <a href=3D"http://www.polleres.net/">http://www.polleres.net/</a><br>= > > ><br> > ><br> > ><br> > <br> > </font> > </p> > > </div> > </blockquote></div><br><div> > <span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; = > color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; = > font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; = > letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: = > auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = > widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; = > -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; = > -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: = > auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div style=3D"margin-top: = > 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: = > normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">-- </div><div = > style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = > margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; = > ">Dr. Axel Polleres</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: = > 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal = > 12px/normal Helvetica; ">Digital Enterprise Research Institute, National = > University of Ireland, Galway</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = > margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal = > normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">email: <a = > href=3D"mailto:axel.polleres@deri.org">axel.polleres@deri.org</a> <sp= > an class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>url: <a = > href=3D"http://www.polleres.net/">http://www.polleres.net/</a></div><div = > style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = > margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; = > min-height: 14px; "><br></div></div></span><br = > class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> > </div> > <br></div></div></div></body></html>= > > --Apple-Mail-22-355523761--
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