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RE: planning RIF's future

From: Paul Vincent <pvincent@tibco.com>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 09:24:04 -0700
Message-ID: <8F4A4531BB49A74387A7C99C7D0B0E0503FF1E14@NA-PA-VBE02.na.tibco.com>
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Ditto (except I'm going to bail out of F2F10).
Cheers
Paul Vincent
TIBCO | Business Optimization | Business Rules & CEP
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-rif-wg-request@w3.org
[mailto:public-rif-wg-request@w3.org]
> On Behalf Of Gary Hallmark
> Sent: 08 May 2008 04:43
> To: public-rif-wg@w3.org
> Subject: Re: planning RIF's future
> 
> 
> While I'd like nothing more than to hang out with you guys, travel to
> the far corners of the globe, argue, and drink for another year or
two,
> my bosses may stop paying for it if I can't show them continuous
> progress on PRD.  I hope we can get another draft soon and that we can
> spend more than 1 hour discussing it at F2F10.
> 
> Sandro Hawke wrote:
> > As you may recall, this Working Group was originally chartered
through
> > November 2007.  The charter said that the group could expect to be
> > extended, as necessary if there was appropriate progress and
> > participation.  While progress was slow at first, participation was
> > good and progress was picking up, so we got a short-term extension,
> > through the end of May 2008, with the understanding that we would
> > reach Last Call on BLD.  The past few weeks have had a few big
> > digressions, but looking over the list of things remaining on the
> > critical path, I think the goal is quite attainable.  So, we should
> > talk some more about what to do next.
> >
> > Here's a proposal for a work plan for a 1-year extension, which I've
> > talked over with Chris and Christian, and some of my management.
The
> > wording is mine (since talking to them), so don't take this as a
firm
> > commitment from anyone.
> >
> > 1.  Produce several W3C Recommendations.  These will each require
wide
> >     external review, multiple interoperating implementations, and a
> >     test suite.
> >
> >      - BLD, DTB, and SWC  -- finish up what're working on now;
respond
> >                              to public comments; fix bugs; gather
> >                              implementation experience; produce test
> suite
> >      - Core               -- specify the fragment of BLD which is
> >                              reasonable to implement on most real
> >                              rule engines
> >      - XTAN               -- the XML fallback mechanism, something
> >                              like I proposed, but cut back if
> >                              necessary to be done in time
> >      - PRD                -- just the basic production rules stuff,
> >                              something like BLD is for the logic
side
> >
> >     As an intermediate goal, I think Core, PRD, and XTAN should
expect
> >     to be at Last Call by December 1 if their to reach Rec by June
1.
> >     If BLD/DTB/SWC ends up needing a lot of attention, then slide
> >     Core, XTAN, and PRD back some months.
> >
> > 2.  Begin work on some other extensions/dialects, getting these to
> >     Last Call.   I expect them to begin as BLD/DTB/SWC wrap up, then
> >     proceeding largely in parallel, not using many of the same
people
> >     as PRD or XTAN.
> >
> >      - Logic Programming dialect (of some variety)
> >      - FOL dialect (of some variety)
> >      - extension for access to XML data sources
> >
> > The big question for each of you is whether this will work for you
and
> > your organization.  Will you stay involved, contributing to this
effort
> > for another year?
> >
> > I believe this will be on the agenda, briefly, for the next telecon.
We
> > can talk about it in more detail, and get an actual headcount at the
> > F2F.  But if you expect you'll be dropping out, or if you have a
real
> > problem with this work plan, please let us know as soon as possible.
> >
> >     -- Sandro
> >
> >
> >
> >
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