Re: Watermarking [Re: Campaign for position of chair and mandate to close this community group]

On Jan 10, 2014, at 19:09 , Mhyst <mhysterio@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sharing culture and helping your friends must not be considered a crime. Just remember that "Nothing is new under the sun". All our culture consists of ideas that have been in the minds of many many people and have evolved with the time (can we really track back the originator of an idea? I think no). Yet, copyright is leading to a world where we can no longer  talk about our own reality without infringing some kind of copyright. On the other hand, Hollywood came to exist because some people attempted to avoid to pay Thomas Alba Edison for his rights over the cinematograph. They moved to a state which didn't have any laws about intellectual property rights. But now they became big, they forgot the oid times.
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> We have to work together to bring new models. Perhaps, some people, have to realize that the old model (where you put the money so others can create and you get most of the benefits) is gone. We have to put the creators in contact with his public and avoid intermediaries. This intermediaries exert too much power over what can be brought to the public and what no. Why should they have that power? Also, people have demonstrated already that there are ways to get the money necessary to produce a film without entering the play of great companies. Things like DRM or blaming the people for sharing culture won't work.
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> If finally the DRM is allowed to exist in the web (as it seems the most propably outcome), we may experience some dark times, but I'm confident it will come the light.

I hope so too, but at the moment, copyright holders have fairly broad ability to set the terms under which they sell or make available their work.  If you want changes in that, the W3C is, alas, not the place.

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> Cheers!
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> 2014/1/11 Karl Dubost <karl@la-grange.net>
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> Le 11 janv. 2014 à 01:56, David Singer <singer@apple.com> a écrit :
> > 1) Define the system such that all players must detect watermarks and refuse to play unlicensed content.
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> not acceptable for the users point of view. "Users considered guilty before the crime." Plus with all the issues of making possible for a users to make his/her content survive through times. Imagine if all the vinyl we had accumulated at home became suddenly unplayable because we can't digitize them to listen them on our mp3 player and all future coming formats/technologies after that.
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> > 2) Use watermarks for forensics.
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> This solution seems an acceptable one, IMHO. Aka a tool to help catch the person after the crime. It's a compromise that the industry has to learn to live with. A society of good relations.
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> watermarks for forensics include different ways to do it:
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> * key in the file. For example on a text file it can be distribution of some invisible characters at different positions in the text file.
> * just a name or an id in the file (what the book publisher publienet does)
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> --
> Karl Dubost 🐄
> http://www.la-grange.net/karl/
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David Singer
Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.

Received on Saturday, 11 January 2014 17:37:37 UTC