Re: Trust

How hard is it to understand the difference between discussing something
and approving something ?

It is always a really a hard sell to ask that something not even be
discussed when some people want to discuss it, in almost any context. You
have to demonstrate a priori that nothing good could come of discussion.
People generally believe that talking is good (this is not the US congress,
after all). So you have to demonstrate that all possible outcomes would be
bad. So you have to know all possible outcomes. That's always going to be
quite a claim. Also, one of the possible outcomes is that nothing happens.

...Mark


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Mhyst <mhysterio@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh, good, then he didn't know what was to come upon leting the door open
> to "protected content".
>
> I'm sorry, but that is hard to believe.
>
>
> 2013/10/18 Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org>
>
>>  On 10/18/2013 10:57 AM, Fred Andrews wrote:
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>> Yes, we see their statements claiming that they have 'not taken a
>> position'.
>>
>> We also see their actions.  Tim has personally dictated that the EME
>> advance, and has dictated the form of the spec that has advanced.  The EME
>> is not a product of an open process, but a spec dictated by a narrow select
>> group.  The EME is Tim's specification, not the open webs specification.
>>
>>
>> Tim has stated that content protection is "in scope" for the HTML working
>> group.  He has not taken any position on the EME spec.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry I do not consider this 'taking no position'.
>>
>> Stop claiming that the EME being advanced has any legitimacy as an open
>> standard.
>>
>> cheers
>> Fred
>>
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>> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 11:15:04 -0700
>> From: watsonm@netflix.com
>> To: pdm@zamazal.org
>> CC: public-restrictedmedia@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: Trust
>>
>>
>>   I do feel bound to point out what Jeff and the staff have repeatedly
>> said which is the W3C has not taken a position on whether EME should be
>> approved or not. The topic is in scope (and, btw, it's always a big ask to
>> suggest that a topic isn't even *discussed*), but that doesn't mean we will
>> find an acceptable solution. The much more significant decision will be
>> whether to approve the EME specification. At this point W3C will have to
>> decide whether the issues raised against the specification have been
>> sufficiently addressed. Since I expect there is likely to be a Formal
>> Objection to any approval by the Working Group then it will be the director
>> who decides on this (IIUC).
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