Re: walling of the web

On 7/1/2013 7:07 AM, cobaco wrote:
> On Monday, Mon, 2013/07/01, Jeff Jaffe wrote:
>> On 6/28/2013 9:47 AM, cobaco wrote:
>>> On Friday, Fri, 2013/06/28, Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org> wrote:
>>>>> 'Web technologies need to support DRM-protected media to reduce the
>>>>> risk of parts of the web being walled off'
>>>> For clarity, W3C has not at this stage supported DRM on the Web.
>>> Blatantly stating that DRM is necessary definately falls under the
>>> heading of supporting DRM.
>> Well what I actually said is that we don't want the content (that is
>> currently protected by DRM) severed from the Web.
> despite all the efforts of Big Content that content is NOT currently
> protected by DRM, nor is it severed from the web:
> it's all over the torrentsites (and youtube in a lot of cases)
>
> that simple fact makes this a feculent argument
>
>> As I said above and in the blog post, there is content that we believe
>> content owners will protect.  We accept that requirement.
> I'm still looking for a valid answer as to _why_ you accept that
> requirement.

The reasons why the Director accepted the requirement are outlined in my 
blog post on this subject.  I understand that many in the Free Software 
community do not view this as valid.  So on this point apparently we 
will disagree.

>
> So far it seems to boil down to "Big Content wants us to"
> (that pretty much everyone else doesn't want you to is apperently not as
> important)
>
> Content protection is an attempt to use technology to make an non-rivalrous
> good, rivalrous.
> That may be good for the (outdated) businessmodels of Big Content it is not
> good for anyone else
>
>> Almost everyone accepts that access control is a valid requirement;
>> although many don't accept DRM as an acceptable method to protect
>> content.  But it happened long ago that content is protected on the web.
> access control and content protection(aka DRM) are two fundamentally
> different beasts.
>
> Access control is about who gets to access the serverside resource, it's
> also a solved probem (passwords, certificates, 2 factor authentication)
>
> DRM is about enforcing 3th party limitations of what your own
> machine/software is allowed to do, it's an attempt to make a general-purpose
> computer into something else.
> --
> Cheers, Cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
>

Received on Monday, 1 July 2013 18:47:56 UTC