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Picture Element Explanation.

From: Jason Grigsby <jason@cloudfour.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 09:33:00 -0800
Message-ID: <CADQU=pME+zrAZKmeFpvusA6ivmbEPwFRKvUk2+320LY5Q_o8Yg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Paul Deschamps <pdescham49@gmail.com>
Cc: "public-respimg@w3.org" <public-respimg@w3.org>
On Thursday, March 5, 2015, Paul Deschamps
>
> Actually to be honest I would have loved to had been involved in
> discussions at the early stages.. Unfortunately I wasn't at the table back
> then; sadly no one invited me :( perhaps I'll stick around a while.
>

Awesome. We'd love to have you.

FWIW, no one was invited. That's true of most web standards discussions—you
can subscribe to the WhatWG list and chime in without invitation—but it is
exceedingly true with responsive images which formed from a web developer
interest instead of coming from browser makers.

That's why it is a community group rather than a working group like the CSS
working group.

So no invitations. Just interested people jumping in to help.

I can't help but feel there's a little emotional investment here with this
> last statement; I am sorry if I have offended you in some way.
>

Nope. Not offended. Don't worry.

If anything, I'm tired. We've had this discussion before multiple times in
the past. You're not the first and won't be the last.

And honestly, I'm fine with the repetition. I expect it.

Where I push back is on the idea that people who have been working in this
issue for years need to provide proof to you when by all appearances you've
just started looking at these issues.

We're happy to answer questions about the standard. We're happy to explain
the constraints and problems.

But we're unlikely to take the time to vet ideas that rehash things that
have been explored and discarded in the past. It's a waste of our time.

Now, if you do the work and prove that what the people who work on the
browsers are incorrect, then more power to you. Just don't expect, or
demand that people "show their code" for what we've encountered multiple
times in past and see as a fool's errand.

I'm happy for you to tilt at windmills. Hell, I'd love for you to be right.
I spent time tilting at that very windmill as well.

But don't expect nor demand that others follow you and do extra work until
you prove that it isn't the same windmill we've been enticed by multiple
times.


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